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无酒亦醉
2022-04-11
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大和:维持蔚来汽车买入评级,目标价72美元
无酒亦醉
2022-04-01
五菱宏光去年早过万了
抱歉,原内容已删除
无酒亦醉
2022-03-15
$蔚来(NIO)$
半个小时成交了近4000万股,成交量太高了
无酒亦醉
2022-03-01
$蔚来(NIO)$
交付符合预期,比较关心2月份有没有在产ET7的展车和试驾车,产量是多少
无酒亦醉
2022-03-01
符合预期
蔚来汽车:2月交付了6131辆汽车,同比增长9.9%
无酒亦醉
2022-02-24
$蔚来(NIO)$
再跌点就准备加仓了,20以下开始
无酒亦醉
2022-02-14
$蔚来(NIO)$
俄乌冲突没实质性进展,打不下去,不可能一直渲染恐慌。等待2月初的交付数据和年报吧。
无酒亦醉
2022-02-01
$理想汽车(LI)$
基本没啥成交量
无酒亦醉
2022-01-26
$蔚来(NIO)$
上半年工厂有望开启双班吗?
无酒亦醉
2022-01-06
可充可换可升级
蔚来正在陷入换电悖论循环
无酒亦醉
2022-01-03
$蔚来(NIO)$
最近几天的成交量有点大啊,这才半个小时就已经有了2000万的交易量
无酒亦醉
2022-01-03
$蔚来(NIO)$
中概股咋又崩了[捂脸]
无酒亦醉
2022-01-01
$蔚来(NIO)$
从四季度交付量来看,当前三款车的产能和订单量也就是每月8000-10000左右了。当前的三款车都是第一代车型,销量已经没有多大提升空间了,ES7没在Nio Day上发布也是怕挤压2022年第一季度的交付量。销量要有大的提升,得看本年度二代车型上新了,EC6,ES6,ES8也到了更新换代的时候了。大家都知道二代相比一代会有很大提升,价格差异也不大,一代车型买的人会变少,等等党更香。期待蔚来在ET5交付前更新所有SUV车型,在此之前股价难以大跃升啊!
无酒亦醉
2021-12-31
$蔚来(NIO)$
这个成交量真的猛
无酒亦醉
2021-12-31
$蔚来(NIO)$
中概股集体爆发
无酒亦醉
2021-12-25
$蔚来(NIO)$
这个月没有虎友报导挪威销量啊
无酒亦醉
2021-12-23
$Solid Power, Inc(SLDP)$
什么时间才会有热度,非得要等到2022年初造出100Ah电池吗
无酒亦醉
2021-12-18
$蔚来(NIO)$
不是说发布两款新车吗?
无酒亦醉
2021-12-13
$Solid Power, Inc(SLDP)$
老虎上和华盛上显示的股本数量还不一样,华盛上已经1.4亿股了
无酒亦醉
2021-12-09
$Decarbonization Plus Acquisition Corporation III(SLDP)$
股本数量什么时间加上去
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height=\"auto\"/></p><p>关于补电时长。想说的是,超高压快充很快就要面世了,2022年就会有大规模落地车型了,比如小鹏的G9,以及理想正在研发的纯电车型等。小鹏G9充电功率可达480KW,号称充电5分钟,续航200KM。考虑到部分家庭可能会配备慢充枪,以及停车场、商超等物业会逐步配备充电桩,这样的充电效率,其实是能满足需求的。</p><p>很显然,充电是一条没有太多逻辑悖论的路线,简单明了。剩下的就是技术攻关、量产和投放密度的问题了。</p><p>关于换电站,很多人都认为,蔚来当前补能体验好,所以应该坚持投入换电。我想说的是,在讨论之前,我们应该明确一个共识:显然当前电动汽车还处于行业初期阶段,技术发展非常迅猛,远没有到定型和标准化的阶段。</p><p>基于这个认知前提,讨论起来就会容易很多。</p><p>为什么不看好换电?先来搞清楚几个问题,答案就自然了然了。</p><p>这一轮电动汽车革命,主要是两大块,一是电气化,二是智能化。大家都大谈特谈智能化才是未来电动汽车的竞争命门,能意识到这一点,说明都很有远见。</p><p>事实上,电动汽车革命,从用户感知的角度来看,分为两大块,一部分是可感知的,另一部分是不可感知的。电动汽车安静、加速响应快、智能化突出,这些都是容易被大家轻易被大家感知到的部分。而在这之下,其实隐藏着深厚的整车架构变革,是为不可感知的部分。</p><p>整车架构变革,到底有哪些呢?简单的来说就是,汽油车都有硕大的发动机,连着机械传动轴、排气管这些机械结构,直接决定了汽车底盘的基本布局。其他的零部件只能在这个基本结构的基础上进行布局设计。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/782b680ac63a4b2fb88fdd1a4a3b6245\" tg-width=\"563\" tg-height=\"327\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>而电动汽车呢?则完全不一样。它没有发动机,没有传动轴,没有排气管。取而代之的是电机、电池。而且因为电池一般是板式结构,所以整车质量可以做到50:50,这给了电动汽车极大的结构设计空间。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2bfac8fee0134ff6b896266d27754818\" tg-width=\"794\" tg-height=\"492\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>这么说可能没太多概念,我举几个例子你就明白了。比如电车没有发动机,所以它前盖可以设计出一个防撞梁,或者因为结构件少,整车车身可以做的更加的一体化设计,从而增强整车刚性;再比如它相比油车,各种管、轴变少了很多,取而代之的是很多的电线——有意思的事情就来了,这些电线,理论上是可以通过合理的布局设计,做到集成化的,像集成电路板一样。</p><p><b>这里提取两个关键词:一体化,和集成化。</b>所谓一体化,就是让整车的零部件化整为零,好处就是可以极大的降低供应链复杂度,提升整车的结构刚性和安全性;所谓集成化,就是电子工业百年里,各种电子架构越来越浓缩化、芯片化,并在某种意义上遵从摩尔定律。</p><p>事实上,以基本常识和高中物理知识就能知道,一体化的空间是有限的,而集成化的空间短期是看不到上限的,类似于摩尔定律。试想一下,50年代的计算机,个头如一栋房子般,而今天的计算机,可以浓缩到手掌心大小,而其处理能力超出50年代的计算机无数倍。</p><p>因此我们可以畅想,10~20年后,车身结构逐步稳定下来,而电子电气架构则不断浓缩和集成化。很多现在看起来个头都比较大的一些控制器,将来都有可能进一步缩小体积,从而可以比较容易的设计进车架中——这就是资本圈子热捧的滑板式底盘结构。</p><p>再来看电池。电池也是一种较为复杂的电化学结构件。随着电化学、储能技术的提升,未来电池容量、电池包体积还会进一步缩小缩到一定程度之后,还可以与底盘一体化成型,实际上零跑汽车就在研发这样的底盘(CBC底盘),好处是集成度高、结构紧凑,同时还能增加车身刚性和安全性。</p><p>回过头来再看换电。常识告诉我们,换电必须建立在电池的标准化基础之上的,否则换电就无从谈起,也根本没法推广。这里的电池标准化,一定得拆开来看,一是机械结构的标准化,二是电化学技术的标准化。你会发现,实际上随着电动汽车技术的快速发展,电化学技术早已建立了若干标准,而电池包的尺寸结构却是没有办法在中短期内标准化的。</p><p>原因很简单,谁不想拥有集成度更高的车身结构呢,谁不想在电气化的路上走得更越远呢?那既然没有办法做到尺寸结构的标准化,又怎能兼容层出不穷的新车型呢,更别说兼容其它车厂的各类车型。</p><p><b>这注定是一个很难规模化的事情,无法规模化,成本就无法降下来,蔚来于是将进入一个悖论循环。</b></p><p>实际上,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>就是一体化、集成化的代表。特斯拉之所以毛利率高,其实主要还是依赖于对其车辆结构的重新设计。这部分用户基本无法感知,体现到车企身上,是供应链的变迁、毛利率的攀升,也是我们投资者常说的,特斯拉在制造效率上的厉害之处。</p><p>蔚来选的换电这条路线,表面上看是抄了近道,实际上是与时代的潮流背道而驰。因为换电的设计,未来底盘就无法做到CBC电池车身一体化,也必须让底盘结构设计让位于换电接口设计,进一步可以推测出,因为换电结构设计,蔚来不得不放弃很多效率优先的设计方案。</p><p>乔布斯那句说说得好,用户永远不清晰的知道自己需要什么,只要当你把完美的产品放到他眼前时,他才会惊叹说,哇,这就是我想要的。蔚来可能只是迎合了一部分用户的显性需求,显然,他们也走了一条最容易、最不费脑力思考的道路。至于国家电网、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PTR\">中石油</a>、<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300750\">宁德时代</a>等,为什么愿意与蔚来一起推换电模式呢?我想说的是,这是从不同侧面的利益出发,做出的时下最理性的选择。国家推动换电模式落地,也有资源利用、多样化探索、国际竞争方面的考量。日本政府和丰田多年来还一直在力推氢能源汽车呢,截止到目前,也没有成为市场主流。</p><p>还是那句话,当站在时代的风口时,要搞清楚核心的游戏规则是什么,不然就完全成了陪跑,最终也只是昙花一现或者泯然众人矣。</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" 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10:31</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>先上一张图</p><p>基本上这张图把换电模式和充电模式,做了个对比分析。仔细看完这张图后,我认为最重要的其实只有两点:补电时长,和产品标准。其它问题都可以从成本的角度去做一些动态分析。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2eb5b7dc7825436ab886303f5ef0d45e\" tg-width=\"628\" tg-height=\"536\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>关于补电时长。想说的是,超高压快充很快就要面世了,2022年就会有大规模落地车型了,比如小鹏的G9,以及理想正在研发的纯电车型等。小鹏G9充电功率可达480KW,号称充电5分钟,续航200KM。考虑到部分家庭可能会配备慢充枪,以及停车场、商超等物业会逐步配备充电桩,这样的充电效率,其实是能满足需求的。</p><p>很显然,充电是一条没有太多逻辑悖论的路线,简单明了。剩下的就是技术攻关、量产和投放密度的问题了。</p><p>关于换电站,很多人都认为,蔚来当前补能体验好,所以应该坚持投入换电。我想说的是,在讨论之前,我们应该明确一个共识:显然当前电动汽车还处于行业初期阶段,技术发展非常迅猛,远没有到定型和标准化的阶段。</p><p>基于这个认知前提,讨论起来就会容易很多。</p><p>为什么不看好换电?先来搞清楚几个问题,答案就自然了然了。</p><p>这一轮电动汽车革命,主要是两大块,一是电气化,二是智能化。大家都大谈特谈智能化才是未来电动汽车的竞争命门,能意识到这一点,说明都很有远见。</p><p>事实上,电动汽车革命,从用户感知的角度来看,分为两大块,一部分是可感知的,另一部分是不可感知的。电动汽车安静、加速响应快、智能化突出,这些都是容易被大家轻易被大家感知到的部分。而在这之下,其实隐藏着深厚的整车架构变革,是为不可感知的部分。</p><p>整车架构变革,到底有哪些呢?简单的来说就是,汽油车都有硕大的发动机,连着机械传动轴、排气管这些机械结构,直接决定了汽车底盘的基本布局。其他的零部件只能在这个基本结构的基础上进行布局设计。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/782b680ac63a4b2fb88fdd1a4a3b6245\" tg-width=\"563\" tg-height=\"327\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>而电动汽车呢?则完全不一样。它没有发动机,没有传动轴,没有排气管。取而代之的是电机、电池。而且因为电池一般是板式结构,所以整车质量可以做到50:50,这给了电动汽车极大的结构设计空间。</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2bfac8fee0134ff6b896266d27754818\" tg-width=\"794\" tg-height=\"492\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" 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10月,江淮蔚来合肥先进制造基地生产线完成阶段性改造,10月下旬起,合肥先进制造基地已逐步恢复生产。</p>\n<p>秦力洪表示,“10月份的销量其实是非常出色的,可以用创纪录来形容,达到了历史新高。因为工厂在改建升级,仅仅满负荷运转了10天,车造的少,所以交付少了。”</p>\n<p>此外,秦力洪还透露,此次的生产线改造目的之一就是兼容ET7准时上线。</p>\n<p>随着工厂改建升级工作的完成,蔚来首款轿车ET7将在明年一季度投产,而江淮蔚来合肥工厂的总产能也将实现2倍增长,达到30万台。</p>\n<p>言下之意,此次销量情形是蔚来为了主力车型ET7“顺产”及产能优化,并对眼前利益暂时让渡导致。</p>\n<p>蔚来虽然对销量信心十足,但对第四季度的交付量缺少了些许底气。</p>\n<p>在第三季度财报电话会上,蔚来预计第四季度车辆交付量在2.35-2.55万辆之间,同比增幅约35.4%至46.9%,较2021年第三季度减少约3.8%-4.3%。</p>\n<p>但在“缺芯”和产线调整的大背景下,“我们”都一样。</p>\n<p>理想、哪吒、威马10月环比均有所上涨,小鹏虽比上月交付量有所减少,仍能突破一万辆大关。蔚来跌幅最大达到了65.5%。</p>\n<p><i><b>02</b></i></p>\n<p><b>蔚来,科技断层?</b></p>\n<p>蔚来车主当前反映最多的问题之一是:车机开机特别慢。甚至有车主调侃,车机版本越升级越卡,“闻出了<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">苹果</a>的味道。”</p>\n<p>这与软件实力息息相关。</p>\n<p>在《2021中国<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/5RE.SI\">智能</a>驾驶核心软件产业研究报告》中,亿欧智库预计,汽车软件在整车价值中所占的比例有望在2030年达到65%,成为未来汽车产业中的重要利润点。</p>\n<p>当前,软件定义汽车已成共识,如何在汽车硬件基础上为用户提供更人性化的软件服务,是重中之重,亦是蔚来等智能化车企绕不开的大山之一。</p>\n<p>蔚来似乎在这座大山面前停住了脚步。</p>\n<p>从过去一年的新闻看,蔚来做的事情,只有两件,要么加速换电站建设,要么日常与车主打作一团。</p>\n<p>在产品研发和技术创新上,蔚来的动作似乎并不明显。</p>\n<p>看似以“互联网思维打天下”,技能树点满的蔚来,本质上更像是一家侧重于售后的车企。</p>\n<p>蔚来更多付出的是对消费者的关爱和无微不至的满足,甚至有人戏称其为“<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/06862\">海底捞</a>式服务”。</p>\n<p>蔚来向来“宠粉”,用户也一直为其忠实地站队欢呼,“圈地自萌”好不欢乐。</p>\n<p>路人缘良好,也要硬实力跟上。蔚来想给人有温度的造车企业的印象无可厚非,但人家隔壁的<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">特斯拉</a>,市值已经破万亿美金了,蔚来可不能沉浸在车主的”温柔乡“里了。</p>\n<p>在市场和车主的眼中,蔚来作为中国造车新势力第一股,一直被视为新能源浪潮下的领头羊,背负的是中国自主品牌弯道超车的希望。</p>\n<p>可车主“饭圈化”显然不是一个好的信号,靠被发好人卡,蔚来不免失却了科技公司的格调。</p>\n<p>不少蔚来车主也真诚呼吁:“多在产品身上下点功夫吧!”</p>\n<p><i><b>03</b></i></p>\n<p><b>周边产品,胜过主营业务?</b></p>\n<p>打造令人愉悦的生活方式,蔚来底气满满。</p>\n<p>除了一年一度的NIO Day之外,似乎再难给出任何惊喜。难道只顾着生活,却忘了创新?</p>\n<p>除了NIO Power、NIO Service、NIO House、NIO Space这些与用车深度相关的用户服务,NIO Life也成为蔚来用户运营的重要组成之一,共同组成了“NIO宇宙”。</p>\n<p>别人出的周边是<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/300024\">机器人</a>,而蔚来出的周边却是时装家居、茶酒美食。</p>\n<p>蔚来,已经在享受生活中愈发得心应手。频频出现在设计师和文青的安利帖中,甚至有人在小红书上发帖:蔚来的周边产品比它的主营业务做得更好。</p>\n<p>你可以永远相信蔚来的审美,但销量不一定。</p>\n<p>不务正业的车企有很多,比如马自达推出过金属蒸蛋器,日产设计过智能家具,福特曾推出狗屋,丰田生产过氢动力游艇,本田还造过飞机。</p>\n<p>友商特斯拉推出了人形机器人Tesla bot,<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">小鹏汽车</a>推出智能机器马,甚至迷上了飞行汽车。</p>\n<p>蔚来若只沉浸在生活的美好中,成为某一群人的狂欢,如何担负得起推动中国智能电动汽车普及全球的历史重任。</p>\n<p><i><b>04</b></i></p>\n<p><b>蔚来,离特斯拉还差多少<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/002594\">比亚迪</a></b></p>\n<p>蔚来的人设,也曾是\"特斯拉中国分拉\"(平替)。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/800d9deff26dd2ab9371ded2377cd21a\" tg-width=\"866\" tg-height=\"588\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>本应更懂中国市场的蔚来,不像特斯拉出身“显贵”,经历了自燃、濒临破产、投资人撤出等事件,一直被霉运笼罩的李斌实属不易,终于走出了中国智能电动汽车的特色道路。</p>\n<p>再看看“任性调价、把用户当韭菜”的特斯拉,市值不仅于近日突破万亿美金,其在销售场景中也是一车难求。</p>\n<p>订单充足产能不足,某种程度上来说羡煞旁人,一时无法望其项背,究其本质恐怕是特斯拉强大的产品力。</p>\n<p>建厂、量产、交付一以贯之,产品性能领先同级且不断通过OTA迭代更新,特斯拉将科技创新的技能值一再拉满。</p>\n<p>蛰伏多年的比亚迪在市值与销量上均得到了市场的正向反馈,被视为中<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/600617\">国新能源</a>汽车的头号代表,取代了蔚来曾经中国车企市值第一的位置。</p>\n<p>如今看来,蔚来与特斯拉之间,还差了不止一个比亚迪。</p>\n<p>蔚来要想在接下来的“新能源短道速滑”中追上特斯拉,还应在技术创新与产品力提升上下功夫。</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5d2e760cacde43d3994fba208021ac4e\" tg-width=\"886\" tg-height=\"640\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p><i><b>05</b></i></p>\n<p><b>蔚来的危机</b></p>\n<p>有车主表示,100多位产品经理负责一个日活10万的APP实属浪费,蔚来的服务,也越发没有新鲜感。</p>\n<p>如果蔚来无法再带来更多惊喜,那么车主还会只为其优质的服务买单吗?</p>\n<p>蔚来面临的风险是,一旦现在蔚来的“信徒”失去了备受宠溺的用户服务,失去了引以为傲的价值标签,将会绝情地离去。</p>\n<p>在用户日益严苛的要求下,蔚来的挑战越来越大,如何在更好服务的基础上,给用户更好的产品,是蔚来的当务之急。</p>\n<p>蔚来想影响并促成转化的,仍是“沉默的大多数”。</p>\n<p>这样的困境,会造成蔚来无法做到下沉,难以做到科技普惠,成为一家伟大的科技公司。</p>\n<p>现在的蔚来成不了比亚迪,更成不了特斯拉。与其被动等待靴子落地,不如励精图治,聆听用户和市场的声音,继续成为“最好的中国智能电动车企”。</p>\n<p>造车势力已进入“战国时代”,亿欧汽车认为,车企需一同抵达未来出行蓝海,缔造智能电动汽车的”白银时代“,才能走得更长远。</p>\n<p>正如蔚来车主所说,价格下探的新车型、不断上升的交付量,才是王道。</p>\n<p>正如车主所言:“蔚来可不要掉队咯!”</p>","source":"lsy1582080587274","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>“优等生”蔚来,没有上进心</title>\n<style 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10月,江淮蔚来合肥先进制造基地生产线完成阶段性改造,10月下旬起,合肥先进制造基地已逐步恢复生产。\n秦力洪表示,“10月份的销量其实是非常出色的,可以用创纪录来形容,达到了历史新高。因为工厂在改建升级,仅仅满负荷运转了10天,车造的少,所以交付少了。”\n此外,秦力洪还透露,此次的生产线改造目的之一就是兼容ET7准时上线。\n随着工厂改建升级工作的完成,蔚来首款轿车ET7将在明年一季度投产,而江淮蔚来合肥工厂的总产能也将实现2倍增长,达到30万台。\n言下之意,此次销量情形是蔚来为了主力车型ET7“顺产”及产能优化,并对眼前利益暂时让渡导致。\n蔚来虽然对销量信心十足,但对第四季度的交付量缺少了些许底气。\n在第三季度财报电话会上,蔚来预计第四季度车辆交付量在2.35-2.55万辆之间,同比增幅约35.4%至46.9%,较2021年第三季度减少约3.8%-4.3%。\n但在“缺芯”和产线调整的大背景下,“我们”都一样。\n理想、哪吒、威马10月环比均有所上涨,小鹏虽比上月交付量有所减少,仍能突破一万辆大关。蔚来跌幅最大达到了65.5%。\n02\n蔚来,科技断层?\n蔚来车主当前反映最多的问题之一是:车机开机特别慢。甚至有车主调侃,车机版本越升级越卡,“闻出了苹果的味道。”\n这与软件实力息息相关。\n在《2021中国智能驾驶核心软件产业研究报告》中,亿欧智库预计,汽车软件在整车价值中所占的比例有望在2030年达到65%,成为未来汽车产业中的重要利润点。\n当前,软件定义汽车已成共识,如何在汽车硬件基础上为用户提供更人性化的软件服务,是重中之重,亦是蔚来等智能化车企绕不开的大山之一。\n蔚来似乎在这座大山面前停住了脚步。\n从过去一年的新闻看,蔚来做的事情,只有两件,要么加速换电站建设,要么日常与车主打作一团。\n在产品研发和技术创新上,蔚来的动作似乎并不明显。\n看似以“互联网思维打天下”,技能树点满的蔚来,本质上更像是一家侧重于售后的车企。\n蔚来更多付出的是对消费者的关爱和无微不至的满足,甚至有人戏称其为“海底捞式服务”。\n蔚来向来“宠粉”,用户也一直为其忠实地站队欢呼,“圈地自萌”好不欢乐。\n路人缘良好,也要硬实力跟上。蔚来想给人有温度的造车企业的印象无可厚非,但人家隔壁的特斯拉,市值已经破万亿美金了,蔚来可不能沉浸在车主的”温柔乡“里了。\n在市场和车主的眼中,蔚来作为中国造车新势力第一股,一直被视为新能源浪潮下的领头羊,背负的是中国自主品牌弯道超车的希望。\n可车主“饭圈化”显然不是一个好的信号,靠被发好人卡,蔚来不免失却了科技公司的格调。\n不少蔚来车主也真诚呼吁:“多在产品身上下点功夫吧!”\n03\n周边产品,胜过主营业务?\n打造令人愉悦的生活方式,蔚来底气满满。\n除了一年一度的NIO 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