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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2023-11-06
$美团-W(03690)$
领涨王美团,向上吧,冲破天际!直插云霄! 天不生我领涨王,港股熊市慢慢如长夜!
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2021-04-11
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$
对于阿里巴巴被罚182亿我想说几点:1.并不是规模大,市占率高就是垄断。市占率高有可能是该服务提供者(阿里巴巴)提供的服务优秀,有竞争力或行业有天然的垄断性。不然一提价就会被店家抵制,也会被其他玩家或新入局的玩家抢生意。这样的服务提供者不应该被处罚,因为这会打击服务提供者提供更好服务的积极性。2.阿里巴巴的二选一不能被理解为垄断欺压行为。因为道理很简单:战场上得不到的东西,在谈判桌上也得不到。阿里巴巴是不能做到单靠二选一这种谈判行为从店家那里要到利益的;阿里巴巴如果想要店家接受二选一,必然要拿出什么利益或条件来交换,毕竟店家手里还是有离开阿里巴巴去其它平台的选项可以选。如果阿里巴巴能够用二选一从店家那里捞到好处,说明之前阿里是给店家让利了,而现在阿里内部内卷嗜利对店家不让利了,以逼迫店家二选一的方式收回。这并不能说明阿里在欺压店家,只是过去的利不让了。3.182亿罚款的方式可能并不能阻止阿里巴巴的这种收回利益的行为,反而可能会逼它变本加厉,让它以其它方式转嫁到店家,消费者和员工身上。这种罚款就像加税一样,会根据它们的议价力的水平而摊派到各个利益相关方的身上,而员工,店家和相对于阿里巴巴集团的议价力都较弱,这182亿的罚款可能由他们承担大部分(我听说阿里员工因为阿里的罚款而减薪了)。
$阿里巴巴-SW(09988)$
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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2020-06-26
$声网(API)$
700股中7股,服了,打新是真的鸡肋
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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2020-06-02
关于网易打新
$苹果(AAPL)$
$网易(NTES)$
$网易-S(09999)$
1.业务网易从营业收入来看,是一家名副其实的游戏公司,游戏收入占其总收入的80%左右。网易的主营业务主要分为三块:在线游戏,在线学习(有道)和创新业务。 来源:网易招股书网易的游戏业务目前是国内第二的水平(仅次于腾讯),在全球范围内也是第二。网易开发过《大话西游》,《梦幻西游》,《阴阳师》,《荒野行动》等大型游戏,而且与国外的暴雪,漫威,微软,华纳兄弟等全球IP巨头和游戏工作室有长期的合作关系,其游戏的开发、代理和运营能力强劲。在这个业务上有较深的护城河。未来几年游戏行业的增速大概在20%左右。网易作为行业老二应该能分享到15%-20%的成长份额。网易的在线学习业务处于规模小、高速增长阶段,18年和19年营收YoY分别为58.7%和78.1%。但是这个行业竞争者巨多,规模小而分散,且处于战略亏损阶段。而网易的创新业务比较杂。有网易云音乐(在线音乐),网易严选(电商),163邮箱,网易新闻和直播,但是网易的这些业务的共通点是服务于有小情调的中产阶级。网易的创新业务在这个细分群体中有口碑,有一定的护城河,但也因为服务的受众的局限,其增长的天花板也比较低。目前网易的创新业务大概占比20%,还处于中高速增长阶段,18年19年和20Q1的YoY分别为33.2%、12.2%和27.7%。2.估值 网易总体来说竞争格局要好于阿里巴巴而次于腾讯,阿里巴巴的目前的估值水平大概在30倍PE左右,而腾讯的估值水平大概在40倍PE
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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2019-11-01
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$
阿里巴巴的增长率还能维持40%一段时间,比腾讯控股和FAANG那些个辣鸡们好多了,然而居然估值水平和腾讯和FANNG差不多,盘前还跌了,美国人看样子对中概股有歧视,不识货啊
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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2019-11-01
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$
净利润7百多亿是什么情况?
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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2019-08-14
相比一季度来看,腾讯的游戏并没有明显的表现,核心业务上也没有太明显的表现,增长的大旗还是由金融科技和企业业务扛着。本人对腾讯一季度时的看法在二季度依然适用。净利润超过预期的部分估计是炒股的收益。
$腾讯控股(00700)$
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@月影孤狼:
$腾讯控股(00700)$ $腾讯控股ADR(TCEHY)$ 腾讯不行了,核心业务增长都低于20%了,金融科技和企业服务赚的是辛苦钱,也支撑不起整个公司的业绩增长。游戏的话,有监管和健康游戏系统的原因,增长的前景也不会太明朗,而投资收益不稳定,带来了风险,抬高了投资者要求的风险溢价。估计未来几年的增长率不会高于25%,40倍的估值太高了
$腾讯控股(00700)$ $腾讯控股ADR(TCEHY)$ 腾讯不行了,核心业务增长都低于20%了,金融科技和企业服务赚的是辛苦钱,也支撑不起整个公司的业绩增长。游戏的话,有监管和健康游戏系统的原因,增长的前景也不会太明朗,而投资收益不稳定,带来了风险,抬高了投资者要求的风险溢价。估计未来几年的增长率不会高于25%,40倍的估值太高了
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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2019-06-04
$阿里巴巴(BABA)$ 可以抄底了吗?只有30倍市盈率了
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月影孤狼
月影孤狼
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2019-05-31
$跟谁学(GSX)$ 确定要打新吗,3百多倍的市盈率
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2019-05-15
$腾讯控股(00700)$ $腾讯控股ADR(TCEHY)$ 腾讯不行了,核心业务增长都低于20%了,金融科技和企业服务赚的是辛苦钱,也支撑不起整个公司的业绩增长。游戏的话,有监管和健康游戏系统的原因,增长的前景也不会太明朗,而投资收益不稳定,带来了风险,抬高了投资者要求的风险溢价。估计未来几年的增长率不会高于25%,40倍的估值太高了
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/09999\">$网易-S(09999)$</a> 1.业务网易从营业收入来看,是一家名副其实的游戏公司,游戏收入占其总收入的80%左右。网易的主营业务主要分为三块:在线游戏,在线学习(有道)和创新业务。 来源:网易招股书网易的游戏业务目前是国内第二的水平(仅次于腾讯),在全球范围内也是第二。网易开发过《大话西游》,《梦幻西游》,《阴阳师》,《荒野行动》等大型游戏,而且与国外的暴雪,漫威,微软,华纳兄弟等全球IP巨头和游戏工作室有长期的合作关系,其游戏的开发、代理和运营能力强劲。在这个业务上有较深的护城河。未来几年游戏行业的增速大概在20%左右。网易作为行业老二应该能分享到15%-20%的成长份额。网易的在线学习业务处于规模小、高速增长阶段,18年和19年营收YoY分别为58.7%和78.1%。但是这个行业竞争者巨多,规模小而分散,且处于战略亏损阶段。而网易的创新业务比较杂。有网易云音乐(在线音乐),网易严选(电商),163邮箱,网易新闻和直播,但是网易的这些业务的共通点是服务于有小情调的中产阶级。网易的创新业务在这个细分群体中有口碑,有一定的护城河,但也因为服务的受众的局限,其增长的天花板也比较低。目前网易的创新业务大概占比20%,还处于中高速增长阶段,18年19年和20Q1的YoY分别为33.2%、12.2%和27.7%。2.估值 网易总体来说竞争格局要好于阿里巴巴而次于腾讯,阿里巴巴的目前的估值水平大概在30倍PE左右,而腾讯的估值水平大概在40倍PE","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">$苹果(AAPL)$</a><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NTES\">$网易(NTES)$</a><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/09999\">$网易-S(09999)$</a> 1.业务网易从营业收入来看,是一家名副其实的游戏公司,游戏收入占其总收入的80%左右。网易的主营业务主要分为三块:在线游戏,在线学习(有道)和创新业务。 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