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2021-12-13
$Angi Inc(ANGI)$
Really regret not selling when it rebounded to $14 😭
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2021-12-10
After Fed meeting go up again
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2021-11-30
Traditional technology vs mRNA by AI. What do you think?
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2021-11-23
Roller coaster
XPeng shares rose nearly 12% in early trading
XPeng shares rose nearly 12% in early trading after the China-based electric vehicle maker reported
XPeng shares rose nearly 12% in early trading
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2021-11-06
Good. Indices continue to 🚀 🚀 🚀
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2021-11-04
Powell cannot let the market crash when he is still in office or else he cannot get reappointment
Fed Chair Powell: 'We understand the difficulties' of rising inflation
The nation’s top economic policymaker acknowledged that inflationary pressures are impacting everyda
Fed Chair Powell: 'We understand the difficulties' of rising inflation
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2021-11-03
$600??
@village5576:
Once we get Approvals for🇪🇺🇬🇧🇮🇳 EU UK & IndiaWe’ll see a 50B market Cap.That’s +600 share price.$Novavax(NVAX)$
Once we get Approvals for🇪🇺🇬🇧🇮🇳 EU UK & IndiaWe’ll see a 50B market Cap.That’s +600 share price.$Novavax(NVAX)$
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2021-11-03
Please fly pass 300… and to the 🌙
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2021-11-03
Hopefully it will break $30 soon
Palantir: What Growth Could Mean For Price In 2025 And Beyond
Summary First, I look at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today. Second, I review PLTR's g
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2021-10-28
Sure. At highest point of $65. The current price level seems like a good deal.
Nio Stock Dropped Wednesday: Is This an Opportunity?
Investors are getting uncomfortable with the level of competition in the electric vehicle space.
Nio Stock Dropped Wednesday: Is This an Opportunity?
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The Consumer Price Index showed pricesrising 5.4% on a year-over-year basisin September (the fastest reading since 2008).</p>\n<p>But Powell leaned again on the explanation of these pressures as “transitory,” pointing to pandemic-induced materials and labor shortages that have constrained supply chains globally.</p>\n<p>The Fed chief said those bottlenecks should persist into next year, stressing that if it appears that inflation will persist even after those COVID-related factors fade, the central bank can raise interest rates.</p>\n<p>Compared to messaging in the last Federal Open Market Committee meeting in September, the policy-setting arm of the central bank appears to be taking seriously the risk of persistent inflation. It tweaked its language in its policy statement to note that inflationary pressures are not “transitory” but “expected to be transitory.”</p>\n<p>Powell said the change was made “to show uncertainty around that.”</p>\n<p><b>Interest rates near zero</b></p>\n<p>In its policy announcement Wednesday, the FOMC unanimously voted to hold interest rates at near zero butbegin the process of tapering its asset purchases.</p>\n<p>Since the depths of the pandemic, the Fed has been buying about $120 billion per month in U.S. Treasuries and agency mortgage-backed securities to signal its support of the economy. But starting this month, the Fed will slow those aggregate purchases by $15 billion per month.</p>\n<p>\"We are prepared to speed up or slow down the pace of reductions in asset purchases, if it's warranted by changes in the economic outlook,” Powell told the press.</p>\n<p>But the tapering program, which marks the first major step in the Fed unwinding its pandemic-era easy money policies, has revved up chatter about when the central bank could eventually tap into its primary tool of levering short-term interest rates.</p>\n<p>Powell made it clear that while it could deploy a rate hike to quell inflation, his focus will be on letting the labor market heal.</p>\n<p>There are still over 5 million workers out of the labor force compared to pre-pandemic levels, which Powell remained optimistic about fixing. The challenge: jobs data as of latehave missed expectationsfor a more vigorous labor market recovery.</p>\n<p>Powell suggested his deference is to give workers and hiring firms more time to plug the shortfall.</p>\n<p>\"Ideally we would see further development of the labor market in a context where there isn't another COVID spike, and then we would be able to see how does participation react in that post-COVID world,” Powell said.</p>\n<p>The next jobs report, covering the month of October, is due on Friday. The central bank’s next policy-setting announcement is scheduled to take place on Dec. 14 and 15.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Fed Chair Powell: 'We understand the difficulties' of rising inflation</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nFed Chair Powell: 'We understand the difficulties' of rising inflation\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-11-04 09:40 GMT+8 <a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-chair-powell-we-understand-the-difficulties-of-rising-inflation-212410432.html><strong>Yahoo</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The nation’s top economic policymaker acknowledged that inflationary pressures are impacting everyday Americans, but doubled down on his view that the hot pace of price increases should abate in time....</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-chair-powell-we-understand-the-difficulties-of-rising-inflation-212410432.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-chair-powell-we-understand-the-difficulties-of-rising-inflation-212410432.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1179826318","content_text":"The nation’s top economic policymaker acknowledged that inflationary pressures are impacting everyday Americans, but doubled down on his view that the hot pace of price increases should abate in time.\n\"We understand the difficulties that high inflation poses for individuals and families, particularly those with limited means to absorb higher prices for essentials such as food and transportation,” Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell said in a press conference Wednesday.\nAmericans have been feeling the impact of rising prices as of late. The Consumer Price Index showed pricesrising 5.4% on a year-over-year basisin September (the fastest reading since 2008).\nBut Powell leaned again on the explanation of these pressures as “transitory,” pointing to pandemic-induced materials and labor shortages that have constrained supply chains globally.\nThe Fed chief said those bottlenecks should persist into next year, stressing that if it appears that inflation will persist even after those COVID-related factors fade, the central bank can raise interest rates.\nCompared to messaging in the last Federal Open Market Committee meeting in September, the policy-setting arm of the central bank appears to be taking seriously the risk of persistent inflation. It tweaked its language in its policy statement to note that inflationary pressures are not “transitory” but “expected to be transitory.”\nPowell said the change was made “to show uncertainty around that.”\nInterest rates near zero\nIn its policy announcement Wednesday, the FOMC unanimously voted to hold interest rates at near zero butbegin the process of tapering its asset purchases.\nSince the depths of the pandemic, the Fed has been buying about $120 billion per month in U.S. Treasuries and agency mortgage-backed securities to signal its support of the economy. But starting this month, the Fed will slow those aggregate purchases by $15 billion per month.\n\"We are prepared to speed up or slow down the pace of reductions in asset purchases, if it's warranted by changes in the economic outlook,” Powell told the press.\nBut the tapering program, which marks the first major step in the Fed unwinding its pandemic-era easy money policies, has revved up chatter about when the central bank could eventually tap into its primary tool of levering short-term interest rates.\nPowell made it clear that while it could deploy a rate hike to quell inflation, his focus will be on letting the labor market heal.\nThere are still over 5 million workers out of the labor force compared to pre-pandemic levels, which Powell remained optimistic about fixing. The challenge: jobs data as of latehave missed expectationsfor a more vigorous labor market recovery.\nPowell suggested his deference is to give workers and hiring firms more time to plug the shortfall.\n\"Ideally we would see further development of the labor market in a context where there isn't another COVID spike, and then we would be able to see how does participation react in that post-COVID world,” Powell said.\nThe next jobs report, covering the month of October, is due on Friday. The central bank’s next policy-setting announcement is scheduled to take place on Dec. 14 and 15.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1269,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841451477,"gmtCreate":1635937214500,"gmtModify":1635937215158,"author":{"id":"3576444918223783","authorId":"3576444918223783","name":"bwkhoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/62d6e46769c7f3e2599cb62434f5f5c3","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3576444918223783","authorIdStr":"3576444918223783"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"$600??","listText":"$600??","text":"$600??","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841451477","repostId":"841413939","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":841413939,"gmtCreate":1635933103818,"gmtModify":1635933103818,"author":{"id":"3479274775671087","authorId":"3479274775671087","name":"village5576","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/picture105","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3479274775671087","authorIdStr":"3479274775671087"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Once we get Approvals for🇪🇺🇬🇧🇮🇳 EU UK & IndiaWe’ll see a 50B market Cap.That’s +600 share price.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVAX\">$Novavax(NVAX)$</a>","listText":"Once we get Approvals for🇪🇺🇬🇧🇮🇳 EU UK & IndiaWe’ll see a 50B market Cap.That’s +600 share price.<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVAX\">$Novavax(NVAX)$</a>","text":"Once we get Approvals for🇪🇺🇬🇧🇮🇳 EU UK & IndiaWe’ll see a 50B market Cap.That’s +600 share price.$Novavax(NVAX)$","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841413939","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1273,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841555254,"gmtCreate":1635928156527,"gmtModify":1635928646469,"author":{"id":"3576444918223783","authorId":"3576444918223783","name":"bwkhoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/62d6e46769c7f3e2599cb62434f5f5c3","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3576444918223783","authorIdStr":"3576444918223783"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Please fly pass 300… and to the 🌙 ","listText":"Please fly pass 300… and to the 🌙 ","text":"Please fly pass 300… and to the 🌙","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841555254","repostId":"1146546859","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1650,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":841342772,"gmtCreate":1635893178627,"gmtModify":1635893178837,"author":{"id":"3576444918223783","authorId":"3576444918223783","name":"bwkhoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/62d6e46769c7f3e2599cb62434f5f5c3","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3576444918223783","authorIdStr":"3576444918223783"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hopefully it will break $30 soon","listText":"Hopefully it will break $30 soon","text":"Hopefully it will break $30 soon","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/841342772","repostId":"1117726029","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1117726029","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1635862053,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1117726029?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-11-02 22:07","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: What Growth Could Mean For Price In 2025 And Beyond","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1117726029","media":"SeekingAlpha","summary":"Summary\n\nFirst, I look at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today.\nSecond, I review PLTR's g","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>First, I look at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today.</li>\n <li>Second, I review PLTR's growth assumptions once again showing how 30% growth per year is probably too modest.</li>\n <li>Third, I show how leverage on PLTR using long-dated options probably isn't going to greatly accelerate investor gains over the next 2-3 years.</li>\n <li>Fourth, I explain how many shares are needed right now to reach $1 million in PLTR stock by the end of 2025, given rational growth models.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/914f43b37e64c3a5067eb0b621b8686c\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>KevinHyde/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Background</b></p>\n<p>It's very simple really. What's growth really mean for Palantir(NYSE:PLTR)investors in 2022, 2023, 2024 and beyond? This is more difficult to answer than it might appear on the surface but all will be revealed.</p>\n<p>Here's how the article will play out.</p>\n<ul>\n <li>First, I look at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today. I don't expect the same year-over-year growth, but PLTR investors today could still do very well.</li>\n <li>Second, I review PLTR's growth assumptions once again showing how 30% growth per year is too probably too modest. I still believe PLTR is sandbagging.</li>\n <li>Third, I show how leverage on PLTR using long-dated options probably isn't going to greatly accelerate investor gains over the next 2-3 years. That's not to say options are bad, but LEAPS don't look sexy here.</li>\n <li>Lastly, I explain how many shares are needed right now to reach $1 million in PLTR stock by the end of 2025, given rational growth models. This is not \"get rich quick\" at all, but instead it's meant to be an intriguing way to frame future growth for any investor.</li>\n</ul>\n<p><b>Past Performance Won't Get You There</b></p>\n<p>Let's start with a basic approach. Here's how PLTR looks thus far:</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ae3bb5915890ce620bdb3015a49df9b2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>In one year, PLTR has gone up 155% going from $10 on September 30th, 2020 through $25.88 on October 29th, 2021. (I'm seeing $26.47 right now.)</p>\n<p>Although I don't expect similar results going forward, we can roughly estimate how things would look. It's been about 400 days since PLTR's DPO. Therefore, very grossly speaking, PLTR is gaining about 0.23% per day compounded. I did that fast, and very back-of-napkin, but it's still fun and interesting, if not ridiculous. Here's how things would look now if you bought at the DPO:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>10 shares at DPO for $100 = $250</li>\n <li>100 shares at DPO for $1,000 = $2,500</li>\n <li>1,000 shares at DPO for $10,000 = $25,000</li>\n <li>10,000 shares at DPO for $100,000 = $250,000</li>\n</ul>\n<p>In other words, even with $100K invested you would not yet be a PLTR millionaire. How many more days at 0.23% would it take to reach $1 million in PLTR stock in this case? Here's the math:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>10 shares at DPO = 4,000 days (about 11 years)</li>\n <li>100 shares at DPO = 3,000 days (about 8 years)</li>\n <li>1,000 shares at DPO = 2,000 days (about 5.5 years)</li>\n <li>10,000 shares at DPO = 1,000 days (about 2.5 years)</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Of course, this is mostly absurd. Getting 150% returns per year is outlandish and it would have required buying right at the DPO for $10 per share. Plus, you'd need to keep getting 150% per year. Also, it would require zero selling. And, much more. Although this is all fun, it's unrealistic for most investors.</p>\n<p>So, the first big point is that even starting with a lot of money and lot of shares,<i>very few investors are hitting $1 million with PLTR right now</i>. And, even with robust assumptions, it'll take many more years to hit the big goal. Therefore, patience is required. There's no way around the math.</p>\n<p><b>More Reasonable Assumptions</b></p>\n<p>For a moment, let's review one basic ratio.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/03d62686c7b3057066e9993cc4c676c3\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Squinting a bit, you can see that PLTR's average price-to-sales ratio is about 28. Next, here are several more mature software companies, plus PayPal(NASDAQ:PYPL), CrowdStrike(NASDAQ:CRWD)and Snowflake(NYSE:SNOW)for a bit of fun, and added perspective.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b5712325a7823b3bfb18b559201dbcc\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"535\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Not surprisingly, SNOW still has a much higher P/S ratio than PLTR. That's been the case for a while. And, CRWD is quite a bit higher. Then, naturally, all the older and bigger software companies I've shown here have significantly lower P/S ratios.<i>Maturity acts like gravity, pulling P/S down.</i></p>\n<p>However, with PLTR, I could easily see the P/S hold around 28 for the next several years as long as strong growth is maintained. In fact, we could see the P/S grow upwards to 40-50, or perhaps higher. On the other hand, it could drop down into the 18-22 range. Of course, anything is possible but I'm trying to establish some guardrails.</p>\n<p>Here's why this matters:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2c1c90ea898fbbebcb6c5d7e728153db\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"357\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: PLTR Q2 Earnings Slides</span></p>\n<p>If revenue growth holds at 30% and price holds with respect to those sales, as the ratios indicate at this point, then we can do a bit of extrapolation. In other words, assuming 30% share price increases year over year isn't too crazy. Here's how that looks, assuming we start with a price of $25 right now:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>2022 = $32.50</li>\n <li>2023 = $42.25</li>\n <li>2024 = $54.93</li>\n <li>2025 = $71.40</li>\n</ul>\n<p>But, here's the rub. I think that maybe PLTR is sandbagging. I wrote an article all about this with a ton of interesting proof.</p>\n<p>In fact, 40% growth might also be too conservative, and according to my projections, PLTR is actually quite capable of 50% CAGR through 2025. For reference:Palantir Is Sandbagging Growth Projections.</p>\n<p>Now, stick with me. Because at this point, we're moving from 30%, to a much higher set of numbers.</p>\n<p>Follow The Math</p>\n<p>I ran some numbers back in that article back in June 2021 when PLTR was trading a little bit lower, at $24. Here are those projections:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>2022 = $34 (40% growth)</li>\n <li>2023 = $47 (40% growth)</li>\n <li>2024 = $66 (40% growth)</li>\n <li>2025 = $92 (40% growth)</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Then...</p>\n<ul>\n <li>2022 = $36 (50% growth)</li>\n <li>2023 = $54 (50% growth)</li>\n <li>2024 = $81 (50% growth)</li>\n <li>2025 = $122 (50% growth)</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Again, for reference:Palantir Is Sandbagging Growth Projections. The math tells us that if PLTR is expecting $4 billion in revenue by 2025, then it's got to grow way above 30%. So,<i>going way above $100 is perfectly rational.</i></p>\n<p>Therefore, in 2025, being a PLTR millionaire would require just under 11,000 shares assuming 40% growth and hitting $92. Being a PLTR millionaire would require about 8,200 shares assuming 50% growth and hitting $122 per share.</p>\n<p>Getting your hands on 11,000 shares right now at $26 would set you back $286K and 8,200 shares would cost you about $213K. Roughly speaking, you'd need $200-300K of PLTR, depending on your assumptions, and then how things actually work out.</p>\n<p>Obviously, you can run your own numbers for your own portfolio from this point. The frameworks are simple, but clear. While I don't expect any kind of smooth growth from here, I do expect tremendous and growing strength over the coming 3-5 years, let alone the next 8-10 years.</p>\n<p>With a substantial \"down payment\" becoming a PLTR millionaire isn't impossible, but that's not exact the point. Instead, it's to consider the tremendous growth in PLTR itself, but also the share price along the way. Even a modest amount of PLTR could turn into a handsome pile; thank you, growth.</p>\n<p><b>Is Leverage Worth It?</b></p>\n<p>Maybe we could use options to exploit leverage:</p>\n<blockquote>\n Options can provide leverage. This means an option buyer can pay a relatively small premium for market exposure in relation to the contract value (usually 100 shares of the underlying stock). An investor can see large percentage gains from comparatively small, favorable percentage moves in the underlying product.\n</blockquote>\n<p>Just remember the key risk if you're buying options:</p>\n<blockquote>\n Leverage also has downside implications. If the underlying stock price does not rise or fall as anticipated during the lifetime of the option, leverage could magnify the investment's percentage loss. Options offer their owners a predetermined, set risk.\n <b>However, if the owner's options expire with no value, this loss can be the entire amount of the premium paid for the option</b>. [Emphasis: Author's]\n</blockquote>\n<p>And, depending on your belief or \"faith\" in PLTR's growth, you could use long dated options or \"LEAPS\" to become wealthy with PLTR.</p>\n<p>For example, we can easily go out all the way to early 2024:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1fd29dee567adf170dd52396e1525bf0\" tg-width=\"397\" tg-height=\"384\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: TD Ameritrade</span></p>\n<p>Assuming you could buy PLTR LEAPs for $4.75 with a strike price of $40, then you could potentially do quite well if PLTR's growth numbers play out.</p>\n<p>With 40% share price growth, PLTR would hit $47 by the end of 2023. And, with 50% growth, PLTR would hit $54 by the end of 2023.</p>\n<p>At a glance that sounds good,<i>but it's not fantastic</i>. I don't even really have to run the numbers because at a glance you can see that you'd maybe 2x to 3x your money invested right now using PLTR LEAPS with a $40 strike.</p>\n<p>Instead, maybe we'd want to look more closely at the $27 strike, for example:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ca9ccabc791d1c116f6cda58e4dcf606\" tg-width=\"397\" tg-height=\"384\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Source: TD Ameritrade</span></p>\n<p>At this point, assuming $8 for each PLTR Jan 2024 LEAP with a $27 strike, we're looking at $12 assuming gains per LEAP with 40% growth. Furthermore, we're look at about $19 gains per LEAP with 50% growth.</p>\n<p>To be clear, what I'm doing is adding the $8 LEAP cost and the $27 strike price. That's $35. Then, I'm taking $47 which assumes 40% growth, and subtracting to get the difference, which is $12. And, I'm taking the $54 which assumes 50% growth, and subtracting the same way to get $19. Nothing too fancy here, and no complicated math. Either way,<i>it falls short again</i>.</p>\n<p>Putting $8 in maybe gets us 1.5x to 2.5x returns in about 2 years. Of course, it could be more like 3x, or even maybe a bit higher. However, buying and holding is likely to generate similar gains,<i>with less risk</i>.</p>\n<p>The message is this. The options market is smart, and forward looking. And, in this case, it's basically letting us know that PLTR's growth is likely to be in the 40-50% range, as I've explained above. The deeper lesson is to have patience with PLTR common equity. The growth is there and leverage won't accelerate gains without adding too much risk.</p>\n<p>At this point in time, I'm not investing in PLTR LEAPS. Buying and holding, with strong growth tailwinds is plenty good enough for most investors. Or, at a minimum, buying PLTR and holding is good enough for my portfolio.</p>\n<p>Wrap Up</p>\n<p>First, I looked at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today. I'm not expecting 150% gains every year, however. That's far too greedy and besides, the uncertainty around PLTR is slowly fading, thereby stabilizing things quite a bit. In part, this is what's holding PLTR in the $22 to $28 range, I believe. The burn off of uncertainty has built a floor, or trading zone. I'm confident this floor will move upwards in 2022.</p>\n<p>Second, I reviewed PLTR's growth assumptions once again, showing how 30% growth per year is too probably too modest. Instead, it's looking like we'll see more like 40-50% per year for the next 3-5 years. Furthermore, assuming there's not a collapse in the P/S ratio, investors could enjoy 40-50% capital gains per year, although it might be quite lumpy along the way. If this is true, then hitting $90 to $120 in 2025 is rational.</p>\n<p>As a quick sidebar, I can see PLTR hitting somewhere between $65 to $85 by the end of 2023, along the way. If PLTR can show concrete growth, and if they can taper stock-based compensation, this seems quite plausible.</p>\n<p>Third, I've used long-dated options and some rough math to show that using leverage on PLTR in the market probably isn't going to greatly accelerate gains over 2-3 years. However, even it does work out, the risk to capital goes up. While there are some times where options work well, e.g.,selling PLTR puts, using LEAPS right now doesn't look favorable enough. Better to buy and hold, in most cases.</p>\n<p>As another sidebar, I enjoyed looking at PLTR LEAPS, which gives investors some added confidence in PLTR's growth over the next 2-3 years. The options market is rather intelligent as a wisdom of the crowds prediction model. I'm seeing an optimistic \"thumbs up\" right now.<i>Growth Stock Renegade</i>subscribers got an extra special view of this phenomenon, I might add.</p>\n<p>And lastly, as a fun exercise, I've shown that you'd likely need 8,000 to 12,000 shares, and 40-50% CAGR on those shares, to reach $1 million. That would require setting aside $200-300K, and waiting patiently until 2025. Maybe that's acceptable, and maybe not, but at least you have a framework now to understand the potential. That's the real point.</p>\n<p>Obviously, you can take all of this data plus the growth rates and come to your own conclusions. What I know is that my confidence in PLTR is still quite high and I continue to maintain my bullish position.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: What Growth Could Mean For Price In 2025 And Beyond</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: What Growth Could Mean For Price In 2025 And Beyond\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-11-02 22:07 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4464239-palantir-what-growth-could-mean-for-price-in-2025-and-beyond><strong>SeekingAlpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nFirst, I look at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today.\nSecond, I review PLTR's growth assumptions once again showing how 30% growth per year is probably too modest.\nThird, I show ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4464239-palantir-what-growth-could-mean-for-price-in-2025-and-beyond\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4464239-palantir-what-growth-could-mean-for-price-in-2025-and-beyond","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1117726029","content_text":"Summary\n\nFirst, I look at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today.\nSecond, I review PLTR's growth assumptions once again showing how 30% growth per year is probably too modest.\nThird, I show how leverage on PLTR using long-dated options probably isn't going to greatly accelerate investor gains over the next 2-3 years.\nFourth, I explain how many shares are needed right now to reach $1 million in PLTR stock by the end of 2025, given rational growth models.\n\nKevinHyde/iStock via Getty Images\nBackground\nIt's very simple really. What's growth really mean for Palantir(NYSE:PLTR)investors in 2022, 2023, 2024 and beyond? This is more difficult to answer than it might appear on the surface but all will be revealed.\nHere's how the article will play out.\n\nFirst, I look at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today. I don't expect the same year-over-year growth, but PLTR investors today could still do very well.\nSecond, I review PLTR's growth assumptions once again showing how 30% growth per year is too probably too modest. I still believe PLTR is sandbagging.\nThird, I show how leverage on PLTR using long-dated options probably isn't going to greatly accelerate investor gains over the next 2-3 years. That's not to say options are bad, but LEAPS don't look sexy here.\nLastly, I explain how many shares are needed right now to reach $1 million in PLTR stock by the end of 2025, given rational growth models. This is not \"get rich quick\" at all, but instead it's meant to be an intriguing way to frame future growth for any investor.\n\nPast Performance Won't Get You There\nLet's start with a basic approach. Here's how PLTR looks thus far:\n\nIn one year, PLTR has gone up 155% going from $10 on September 30th, 2020 through $25.88 on October 29th, 2021. (I'm seeing $26.47 right now.)\nAlthough I don't expect similar results going forward, we can roughly estimate how things would look. It's been about 400 days since PLTR's DPO. Therefore, very grossly speaking, PLTR is gaining about 0.23% per day compounded. I did that fast, and very back-of-napkin, but it's still fun and interesting, if not ridiculous. Here's how things would look now if you bought at the DPO:\n\n10 shares at DPO for $100 = $250\n100 shares at DPO for $1,000 = $2,500\n1,000 shares at DPO for $10,000 = $25,000\n10,000 shares at DPO for $100,000 = $250,000\n\nIn other words, even with $100K invested you would not yet be a PLTR millionaire. How many more days at 0.23% would it take to reach $1 million in PLTR stock in this case? Here's the math:\n\n10 shares at DPO = 4,000 days (about 11 years)\n100 shares at DPO = 3,000 days (about 8 years)\n1,000 shares at DPO = 2,000 days (about 5.5 years)\n10,000 shares at DPO = 1,000 days (about 2.5 years)\n\nOf course, this is mostly absurd. Getting 150% returns per year is outlandish and it would have required buying right at the DPO for $10 per share. Plus, you'd need to keep getting 150% per year. Also, it would require zero selling. And, much more. Although this is all fun, it's unrealistic for most investors.\nSo, the first big point is that even starting with a lot of money and lot of shares,very few investors are hitting $1 million with PLTR right now. And, even with robust assumptions, it'll take many more years to hit the big goal. Therefore, patience is required. There's no way around the math.\nMore Reasonable Assumptions\nFor a moment, let's review one basic ratio.\n\nSquinting a bit, you can see that PLTR's average price-to-sales ratio is about 28. Next, here are several more mature software companies, plus PayPal(NASDAQ:PYPL), CrowdStrike(NASDAQ:CRWD)and Snowflake(NYSE:SNOW)for a bit of fun, and added perspective.\n\nNot surprisingly, SNOW still has a much higher P/S ratio than PLTR. That's been the case for a while. And, CRWD is quite a bit higher. Then, naturally, all the older and bigger software companies I've shown here have significantly lower P/S ratios.Maturity acts like gravity, pulling P/S down.\nHowever, with PLTR, I could easily see the P/S hold around 28 for the next several years as long as strong growth is maintained. In fact, we could see the P/S grow upwards to 40-50, or perhaps higher. On the other hand, it could drop down into the 18-22 range. Of course, anything is possible but I'm trying to establish some guardrails.\nHere's why this matters:\nSource: PLTR Q2 Earnings Slides\nIf revenue growth holds at 30% and price holds with respect to those sales, as the ratios indicate at this point, then we can do a bit of extrapolation. In other words, assuming 30% share price increases year over year isn't too crazy. Here's how that looks, assuming we start with a price of $25 right now:\n\n2022 = $32.50\n2023 = $42.25\n2024 = $54.93\n2025 = $71.40\n\nBut, here's the rub. I think that maybe PLTR is sandbagging. I wrote an article all about this with a ton of interesting proof.\nIn fact, 40% growth might also be too conservative, and according to my projections, PLTR is actually quite capable of 50% CAGR through 2025. For reference:Palantir Is Sandbagging Growth Projections.\nNow, stick with me. Because at this point, we're moving from 30%, to a much higher set of numbers.\nFollow The Math\nI ran some numbers back in that article back in June 2021 when PLTR was trading a little bit lower, at $24. Here are those projections:\n\n2022 = $34 (40% growth)\n2023 = $47 (40% growth)\n2024 = $66 (40% growth)\n2025 = $92 (40% growth)\n\nThen...\n\n2022 = $36 (50% growth)\n2023 = $54 (50% growth)\n2024 = $81 (50% growth)\n2025 = $122 (50% growth)\n\nAgain, for reference:Palantir Is Sandbagging Growth Projections. The math tells us that if PLTR is expecting $4 billion in revenue by 2025, then it's got to grow way above 30%. So,going way above $100 is perfectly rational.\nTherefore, in 2025, being a PLTR millionaire would require just under 11,000 shares assuming 40% growth and hitting $92. Being a PLTR millionaire would require about 8,200 shares assuming 50% growth and hitting $122 per share.\nGetting your hands on 11,000 shares right now at $26 would set you back $286K and 8,200 shares would cost you about $213K. Roughly speaking, you'd need $200-300K of PLTR, depending on your assumptions, and then how things actually work out.\nObviously, you can run your own numbers for your own portfolio from this point. The frameworks are simple, but clear. While I don't expect any kind of smooth growth from here, I do expect tremendous and growing strength over the coming 3-5 years, let alone the next 8-10 years.\nWith a substantial \"down payment\" becoming a PLTR millionaire isn't impossible, but that's not exact the point. Instead, it's to consider the tremendous growth in PLTR itself, but also the share price along the way. Even a modest amount of PLTR could turn into a handsome pile; thank you, growth.\nIs Leverage Worth It?\nMaybe we could use options to exploit leverage:\n\n Options can provide leverage. This means an option buyer can pay a relatively small premium for market exposure in relation to the contract value (usually 100 shares of the underlying stock). An investor can see large percentage gains from comparatively small, favorable percentage moves in the underlying product.\n\nJust remember the key risk if you're buying options:\n\n Leverage also has downside implications. If the underlying stock price does not rise or fall as anticipated during the lifetime of the option, leverage could magnify the investment's percentage loss. Options offer their owners a predetermined, set risk.\n However, if the owner's options expire with no value, this loss can be the entire amount of the premium paid for the option. [Emphasis: Author's]\n\nAnd, depending on your belief or \"faith\" in PLTR's growth, you could use long dated options or \"LEAPS\" to become wealthy with PLTR.\nFor example, we can easily go out all the way to early 2024:\nSource: TD Ameritrade\nAssuming you could buy PLTR LEAPs for $4.75 with a strike price of $40, then you could potentially do quite well if PLTR's growth numbers play out.\nWith 40% share price growth, PLTR would hit $47 by the end of 2023. And, with 50% growth, PLTR would hit $54 by the end of 2023.\nAt a glance that sounds good,but it's not fantastic. I don't even really have to run the numbers because at a glance you can see that you'd maybe 2x to 3x your money invested right now using PLTR LEAPS with a $40 strike.\nInstead, maybe we'd want to look more closely at the $27 strike, for example:\nSource: TD Ameritrade\nAt this point, assuming $8 for each PLTR Jan 2024 LEAP with a $27 strike, we're looking at $12 assuming gains per LEAP with 40% growth. Furthermore, we're look at about $19 gains per LEAP with 50% growth.\nTo be clear, what I'm doing is adding the $8 LEAP cost and the $27 strike price. That's $35. Then, I'm taking $47 which assumes 40% growth, and subtracting to get the difference, which is $12. And, I'm taking the $54 which assumes 50% growth, and subtracting the same way to get $19. Nothing too fancy here, and no complicated math. Either way,it falls short again.\nPutting $8 in maybe gets us 1.5x to 2.5x returns in about 2 years. Of course, it could be more like 3x, or even maybe a bit higher. However, buying and holding is likely to generate similar gains,with less risk.\nThe message is this. The options market is smart, and forward looking. And, in this case, it's basically letting us know that PLTR's growth is likely to be in the 40-50% range, as I've explained above. The deeper lesson is to have patience with PLTR common equity. The growth is there and leverage won't accelerate gains without adding too much risk.\nAt this point in time, I'm not investing in PLTR LEAPS. Buying and holding, with strong growth tailwinds is plenty good enough for most investors. Or, at a minimum, buying PLTR and holding is good enough for my portfolio.\nWrap Up\nFirst, I looked at PLTR's early growth from $10 to $25 or so today. I'm not expecting 150% gains every year, however. That's far too greedy and besides, the uncertainty around PLTR is slowly fading, thereby stabilizing things quite a bit. In part, this is what's holding PLTR in the $22 to $28 range, I believe. The burn off of uncertainty has built a floor, or trading zone. I'm confident this floor will move upwards in 2022.\nSecond, I reviewed PLTR's growth assumptions once again, showing how 30% growth per year is too probably too modest. Instead, it's looking like we'll see more like 40-50% per year for the next 3-5 years. Furthermore, assuming there's not a collapse in the P/S ratio, investors could enjoy 40-50% capital gains per year, although it might be quite lumpy along the way. If this is true, then hitting $90 to $120 in 2025 is rational.\nAs a quick sidebar, I can see PLTR hitting somewhere between $65 to $85 by the end of 2023, along the way. If PLTR can show concrete growth, and if they can taper stock-based compensation, this seems quite plausible.\nThird, I've used long-dated options and some rough math to show that using leverage on PLTR in the market probably isn't going to greatly accelerate gains over 2-3 years. However, even it does work out, the risk to capital goes up. While there are some times where options work well, e.g.,selling PLTR puts, using LEAPS right now doesn't look favorable enough. Better to buy and hold, in most cases.\nAs another sidebar, I enjoyed looking at PLTR LEAPS, which gives investors some added confidence in PLTR's growth over the next 2-3 years. The options market is rather intelligent as a wisdom of the crowds prediction model. I'm seeing an optimistic \"thumbs up\" right now.Growth Stock Renegadesubscribers got an extra special view of this phenomenon, I might add.\nAnd lastly, as a fun exercise, I've shown that you'd likely need 8,000 to 12,000 shares, and 40-50% CAGR on those shares, to reach $1 million. That would require setting aside $200-300K, and waiting patiently until 2025. Maybe that's acceptable, and maybe not, but at least you have a framework now to understand the potential. That's the real point.\nObviously, you can take all of this data plus the growth rates and come to your own conclusions. What I know is that my confidence in PLTR is still quite high and I continue to maintain my bullish position.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1109,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0},{"id":855711873,"gmtCreate":1635400914281,"gmtModify":1635400914493,"author":{"id":"3576444918223783","authorId":"3576444918223783","name":"bwkhoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/62d6e46769c7f3e2599cb62434f5f5c3","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3576444918223783","authorIdStr":"3576444918223783"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sure. At highest point of $65. The current price level seems like a good deal. ","listText":"Sure. At highest point of $65. The current price level seems like a good deal. ","text":"Sure. At highest point of $65. The current price level seems like a good deal.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/855711873","repostId":"1132883630","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1132883630","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1635399451,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1132883630?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-10-28 13:37","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Nio Stock Dropped Wednesday: Is This an Opportunity?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1132883630","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Investors are getting uncomfortable with the level of competition in the electric vehicle space.","content":"<p><b>What happened</b></p>\n<p>After kicking off Wednesday on a positive note and popping by 2% in early morning trading,electric vehicle stock <b>Nio</b>(NYSE:NIO) shed all of those gains and then some. At the close of the session, Nio shares were down by 2.9%.</p>\n<p>It seems investors are weighing the impact of rising competition on the Chinese automaker's prospects and finding it worrisome.</p>\n<p><b>So what</b></p>\n<p>Nio's chief rival <b>Tesla</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA)is firing on all cylinders. After Tesla bagged an order for 100,000 electric vehicles from rental company <b>Hertz</b> earlier this week,it was back in the news again Wednesday after Hertz struck a deal with <b>Uber Technologies</b> to rent it 50,000 Tesla EVs. Although that development built on Hertz's previous order, it reflects the massive potential of the EV industry and the unmistakable traction that Tesla has already gained within it. It's also racing ahead in Nio's core market of China.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1d13f2a97da1133832ade5c930059cf8\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1333\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>IMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES.</span></p>\n<p>On Wednesday morning,<b>General Motors</b>(NYSE:GM) CEO Mary Barra told CNBC that the auto giant could \"absolutely\" catch up with Tesla on EV sales by 2025. In June, GM announced an ambitious goal of selling more than 1 million EVs worldwide by 2025, backed by investments worth $35 billion in EVs and autonomous vehicles over that period.</p>\n<p><b>Now what</b></p>\n<p>EVs are a hot market right now, and this is just the start. It's therefore unsurprising to see competition intensifying as nearly every automaker strives to get a piece of a market segment with exponential growth potential.</p>\n<p>Does that mean Nio will be edged out? I don't think so.</p>\n<p>In a short span of time, Nio has established itself as one of the top luxury car makers in China. It delivered more vehicles last quarter than it ever had before, recently began selling in Europe, and is set to launch its first electric luxury sedan, the ET7, in China as well as Norway in 2022 even as it prepares a blueprint for low-priced models to target the mass market in China. Nio's battery-as-a-service program also gives it an edge over rivals, especially among cost-conscious consumers.</p>\n<p>So while Tesla's wins may rattle Nio investors momentarily, the Chinese automaker is a long-term growth story and looks like one of the most promising EV stocks right now to buy on a dip.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Nio Stock Dropped Wednesday: Is This an Opportunity?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNio Stock Dropped Wednesday: Is This an Opportunity?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-10-28 13:37 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/10/27/nio-stock-dropped-wednesday-is-this-an-opportunity/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>What happened\nAfter kicking off Wednesday on a positive note and popping by 2% in early morning trading,electric vehicle stock Nio(NYSE:NIO) shed all of those gains and then some. At the close of the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/10/27/nio-stock-dropped-wednesday-is-this-an-opportunity/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/10/27/nio-stock-dropped-wednesday-is-this-an-opportunity/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1132883630","content_text":"What happened\nAfter kicking off Wednesday on a positive note and popping by 2% in early morning trading,electric vehicle stock Nio(NYSE:NIO) shed all of those gains and then some. At the close of the session, Nio shares were down by 2.9%.\nIt seems investors are weighing the impact of rising competition on the Chinese automaker's prospects and finding it worrisome.\nSo what\nNio's chief rival Tesla(NASDAQ:TSLA)is firing on all cylinders. After Tesla bagged an order for 100,000 electric vehicles from rental company Hertz earlier this week,it was back in the news again Wednesday after Hertz struck a deal with Uber Technologies to rent it 50,000 Tesla EVs. Although that development built on Hertz's previous order, it reflects the massive potential of the EV industry and the unmistakable traction that Tesla has already gained within it. It's also racing ahead in Nio's core market of China.\nIMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES.\nOn Wednesday morning,General Motors(NYSE:GM) CEO Mary Barra told CNBC that the auto giant could \"absolutely\" catch up with Tesla on EV sales by 2025. In June, GM announced an ambitious goal of selling more than 1 million EVs worldwide by 2025, backed by investments worth $35 billion in EVs and autonomous vehicles over that period.\nNow what\nEVs are a hot market right now, and this is just the start. It's therefore unsurprising to see competition intensifying as nearly every automaker strives to get a piece of a market segment with exponential growth potential.\nDoes that mean Nio will be edged out? I don't think so.\nIn a short span of time, Nio has established itself as one of the top luxury car makers in China. It delivered more vehicles last quarter than it ever had before, recently began selling in Europe, and is set to launch its first electric luxury sedan, the ET7, in China as well as Norway in 2022 even as it prepares a blueprint for low-priced models to target the mass market in China. Nio's battery-as-a-service program also gives it an edge over rivals, especially among cost-conscious consumers.\nSo while Tesla's wins may rattle Nio investors momentarily, the Chinese automaker is a long-term growth story and looks like one of the most promising EV stocks right now to buy on a dip.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1444,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"CN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"following","isTTM":false}