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  ·2021-08-17
  Morgan Stanley should hire this guy as analyst instead
  Micron Technology: Winter May Be Coming, But Not This Year... Nor The Next
  Summary The Morgan Stanley downgrade of Memory chips was based on PC DRAM ASPs that represent just
  Micron Technology: Winter May Be Coming, But Not This Year... Nor The Next
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  ·2021-08-05
  Huat!
  Robinhood's 126% post-IPO rally puts its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion stock payout
  Robinhood co-founders Baiju Bhatt (left) and Vlad Tenev. Robinhood's post IPO rally of as much as 1
  Robinhood's 126% post-IPO rally puts its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion stock payout
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-07-28
  Semicon stocks should have some legs to run further
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-07-28
  Why would elon musk want to buy AVTI??
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-07-23
  Follow the grandmaster. It wont go wrong. Lol
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-07-22
  Why they left traces in the chat msg???
  Gold Trader’s Chat Bragged About ‘How Easy’ It Is to Manipulate Prices
  (Bloomberg) -- Chat logs introduced as evidence by prosecutors at the Chicago spoofing trial of two
  Gold Trader’s Chat Bragged About ‘How Easy’ It Is to Manipulate Prices
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-07-08
  But it dropped 7% yesterday..
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-07-08
  I think it will take some time for investors to regain confidence in the china stocks listed in the US
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-07-05
  Prepare for a sell down on tuesday [生气]
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- tiotototiototo
  ·2021-06-28
  Online betting is the way to go lol
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Stanley should hire this guy as analyst instead","listText":"Morgan Stanley should hire this guy as analyst instead","text":"Morgan Stanley should hire this guy as analyst instead","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/839481001","repostId":"1162723925","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1162723925","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1629170609,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1162723925?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-08-17 11:23","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Micron Technology: Winter May Be Coming, But Not This Year... Nor The Next","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1162723925","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Summary\n\nThe Morgan Stanley downgrade of Memory chips was based on PC DRAM ASPs that represent just ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>The Morgan Stanley downgrade of Memory chips was based on PC DRAM ASPs that represent just 15% of the total DRAM demand.</li>\n <li>The report addressed dropping PC sales, but failed to recognize that DRAM content per PC is increasing each year.</li>\n <li>The report focuses on DRAM spot prices, instead of contract prices that make up 90% of supplier ASPs.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/72f0a26068ce9a56688977e5a0dd9578\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>borisyankov/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p>Morgan Stanley analysts downgraded Micron(NASDAQ:MU)to equal weight from overweight, in their industry report titled, “Memory - Winter Is Coming.\" MS cautioned of a coming cool down in the DRAM memory business that could lead to lower DRAM prices.</p>\n<p>Morgan Stanley noted that</p>\n<blockquote>\n “DRAM conditions are losing steam, and our inflection signposts suggest caution from here there’s been a change from mid-cycle to late cycle, and that this phase-change has historically meant a challenging backdrop for forward returns.”\n</blockquote>\n<p>Micron Technology’sstock had its worst single-day percentage decline since March 16, 2020, when it fell 19.8%. MU's stock price for the past year is shown in Chart 1, illustrating the sell-off in the past few days coupled with a drop of more than 25% since reaching a high on April 12, 2021.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ea0b20556a40eb39c18b7aa1ed295e1c\" tg-width=\"634\" tg-height=\"416\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>Chart 1</p>\n<p>This article presents data that refutes the underlying case presented by Morgan Stanley that worsening DRAM demand is contributing to an acceleration of the end of the current memory upcycle leading to the start of a down cycle in 1Q 2022.</p>\n<p><b>Morgan Stanley’s Misinterpretation of Data#1 Small Percentage of PC DRAM</b></p>\n<p>The first point is the emphasis by Morgan Stanley on PC DRAM price erosion as a harbinger for the downturn in the DRAM market. Why? Because PCs represent just 15% of the demand for DRAMs,as shown in Chart 2, according to our report entitled “<i>Hot ICs: A Market Analysis of Artificial Intelligence, 5G, CMOS Image Sensors, and Memory Chips.\"</i></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0b40e66f4b73b27303075791c19fe36f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"465\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Chart 2</p>\n<p><b>#2 Increased DRAM content per PC</b></p>\n<p>The 15% DRAM demand for PCs is hardly enough to cause a stop in the memory cycle. But that's beside the point. Morgan Stanley overlooks the fact that DRAM content per PC increases each year even if the PC market has slowed.</p>\n<p>Chart 3 shows that PC unit shipments between 2015 and 2023. Indeed, my forecast shows that PCs will decrease in 2022 and 2023, but the decrease is due to a normalization of PC demand following the extraordinary demand for PCs during the work/study/stay-at-home orders associated with the COVID pandemic in 2020 that carried over into 2021.</p>\n<p>Prior to 2020, the PC market was decreasing, and I anticipate a corresponding return normalcy with a decrease of a few percent per year in 2022 and 2023. I estimate that DRAM content per PC will increase from 5.5 GB in 2015 to 14 GB in 2023. That’s an increase of 2.5 times during this period.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5732cd4948d7209d76ccb4f7628560ab\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"465\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Chart 3</p>\n<p>Thus, although PC units will decrease, DRAM content will increase during the next two years. But factoring in the increase in DRAM content per PC, we see in Chart 4 a much different growth in DRAMs.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7c21d24f41f7f77bc00c62ed82b44f62\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"465\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Chart 4</p>\n<p><b>#3 Spot ASPs are Different than Contract ASPs</b></p>\n<p>Chart 5 shows DRAM data comparison for Spot ASPs vs Contract ASPs. The entire rationale for the TrendForce and Morgan Stanley reports is the drop in spot prices in 2021, and the resultant end of the current memory cycle.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b5a2774dcaff2d53edd141e0cc1e2d13\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"346\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\">Chart 5</p>\n<p>Why they chose the drop in spot prices as the catalyst for the end of the cycle vs. the increase in contract prices as a catalyst for strong memory growth is irrational and illogical.</p>\n<p>Importantly, there's no correlation between PC sales (Chart 3) and prices (Chart 5). In Chart 3, PC sales were at their lowest period (2017 and 2018) while ASPs were at their highest. Thus, there's an inverse relationship between PC sales and ASPs, not a direct relationship that would add credibility to the MS forecast.</p>\n<p><b>#4 Spot ASPs Are a Function of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD Factor)</b></p>\n<p>Also note that Chart 5 shows that spot and contract prices tracked between October 2016 and the end of 2000. A bifurcation in spot vs contract prices then took place in which spot prices escalated and then collapsed, while contract prices continued a strong growth with no abatement.</p>\n<p>This bifurcation is clearly the result of the “semiconductor shortage” in which prices on the spot market have risen as a result of a perceived shortage of memory that has been interpreted as impacting not only automobiles, but every application using chips.</p>\n<p>TrendForce attempted to explain the shortage is due to stockpiling by PC suppliers, and I agree, which I also attributed to the DRAM collapse in 2000.I discussed stockpiling and hoarding as a major factor in 2000 and 2020, in a June 24, 2021 Semiconductor Deep Dive Marketplace newsletter articlehere.</p>\n<p>However, TrendForce’s statement in its press release of downward pressure on price hikes runs counter to the data in Chart 5 that contract prices have continued to increase unabated.</p>\n<blockquote>\n “Regarding the contract market, PC OEMs currently carry relatively high levels of DRAM inventory because they substantially stocked up on PC DRAM beforehand in anticipation of an upcoming shortage. Not only has PC OEMs’ high DRAM inventory put downward pressure on possible price hikes for PC DRAM, but the gradual lifting of COVID-related restrictions in Europe and the US will also likely lower the overall demand for notebook computers, thereby pulling down the overall demand for PC DRAM.”\n</blockquote>\n<p>Spot prices are based on what a buyer is willing to pay for an item with an undercurrent of fear, uncertainty, and doubt. For example, in my June 19, 2021, SA article entitled \"Micron Technology: No Shortage, Strong Growth, Period,\" from a commenter:</p>\n<blockquote>\n \"And, to lend credence to your microcontroller hypothesis, we recently were told that we would not be able to get a $3 micro for one of our existing products. I don't know if it was a direct result of the Renesas fire or not. But when we looked at the spot market we were quoted $81 for that part (that's not a typo). So now we have to re-design that board to use a different part.\"\n</blockquote>\n<p>About 10 years ago, I was an \"expert witness\" in a solar cell litigation case, and the basis of the complaint was the fact that spot silicon prices increased from $35 per metric ton to more than $500 per metric ton in a period of a few weeks because of silicon shortages. Once silicon manufacturers started making more silicon, prices dropped.</p>\n<p>Both these examples illustrate that spot prices have no direct bearing on real (contract) prices, and are often transitory.</p>\n<p>Back to the erroneous thesis that a DRAM cycle will end based on spot prices, I show supportive data in Chart 6 that suggests their data is wrong. This chart shows DRAM ASPs as reported directly from Micron, Samsung Electronics(OTC:SSNLF)and SK Hynix(OTC:HXSCL).</p>\n<p>Comparing Chart 5 and Chart 6, it is clear that data directly from the DRAM suppliers matches the positive contract prices and not spot prices. Readers must remember also that spot prices represent only 10% of the DRAM prices paid by customers. Contract prices represent 90% of actual prices.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7d56577da5391c86374739262f773c7f\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"465\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Chart 6</p>\n<p>Chart 7 shows memory ASPs on a three-month moving average from the SIA (Semiconductor Industry Association). Again, comparing Chart 7 with Chart 5, it is clear that the contract prices are the more valid metric.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/be8f41d833e46a0145982559a7e23732\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n<p>Chart 7</p>\n<p><b>Investor Takeaway</b></p>\n<p>The recent press release from TrendForce and a report a day later by Morgan Stanley is based in data that's irrational and illogical. Their analysis is based on:</p>\n<ul>\n <li>PC DRAM ASPs that represent just 15% of the total DRAM demand.</li>\n <li>A drop in PC sales, which have been in decline and only increased due to the pandemic, but low PC sales correlate with high ASPs (Charts 3 and 5).</li>\n <li>Failure to recognize that DRAM content per PC is increasing each year and that metric shows no abatement in growth.</li>\n <li>DRAM spot prices instead of contract prices, the latter of which correlate with reporting data supplied by DRAM manufacturer.</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Strong demand for memory chips will continue through 2023 as supply is held in check not by shortages but judicious capex spend. The strong demand for memory chips such as 5G, servers, and EVs present a continuing tailwind for Micron Technology.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Micron Technology: Winter May Be Coming, But Not This Year... 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Nor The Next\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-08-17 11:23 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4449857-micron-technology-winter-may-be-coming-but-not-this-year-nor-the-next><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nThe Morgan Stanley downgrade of Memory chips was based on PC DRAM ASPs that represent just 15% of the total DRAM demand.\nThe report addressed dropping PC sales, but failed to recognize that ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4449857-micron-technology-winter-may-be-coming-but-not-this-year-nor-the-next\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"MU":"美光科技"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4449857-micron-technology-winter-may-be-coming-but-not-this-year-nor-the-next","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1162723925","content_text":"Summary\n\nThe Morgan Stanley downgrade of Memory chips was based on PC DRAM ASPs that represent just 15% of the total DRAM demand.\nThe report addressed dropping PC sales, but failed to recognize that DRAM content per PC is increasing each year.\nThe report focuses on DRAM spot prices, instead of contract prices that make up 90% of supplier ASPs.\n\nborisyankov/E+ via Getty Images\nMorgan Stanley analysts downgraded Micron(NASDAQ:MU)to equal weight from overweight, in their industry report titled, “Memory - Winter Is Coming.\" MS cautioned of a coming cool down in the DRAM memory business that could lead to lower DRAM prices.\nMorgan Stanley noted that\n\n “DRAM conditions are losing steam, and our inflection signposts suggest caution from here there’s been a change from mid-cycle to late cycle, and that this phase-change has historically meant a challenging backdrop for forward returns.”\n\nMicron Technology’sstock had its worst single-day percentage decline since March 16, 2020, when it fell 19.8%. MU's stock price for the past year is shown in Chart 1, illustrating the sell-off in the past few days coupled with a drop of more than 25% since reaching a high on April 12, 2021.\n\nChart 1\nThis article presents data that refutes the underlying case presented by Morgan Stanley that worsening DRAM demand is contributing to an acceleration of the end of the current memory upcycle leading to the start of a down cycle in 1Q 2022.\nMorgan Stanley’s Misinterpretation of Data#1 Small Percentage of PC DRAM\nThe first point is the emphasis by Morgan Stanley on PC DRAM price erosion as a harbinger for the downturn in the DRAM market. Why? Because PCs represent just 15% of the demand for DRAMs,as shown in Chart 2, according to our report entitled “Hot ICs: A Market Analysis of Artificial Intelligence, 5G, CMOS Image Sensors, and Memory Chips.\"\nChart 2\n#2 Increased DRAM content per PC\nThe 15% DRAM demand for PCs is hardly enough to cause a stop in the memory cycle. But that's beside the point. Morgan Stanley overlooks the fact that DRAM content per PC increases each year even if the PC market has slowed.\nChart 3 shows that PC unit shipments between 2015 and 2023. Indeed, my forecast shows that PCs will decrease in 2022 and 2023, but the decrease is due to a normalization of PC demand following the extraordinary demand for PCs during the work/study/stay-at-home orders associated with the COVID pandemic in 2020 that carried over into 2021.\nPrior to 2020, the PC market was decreasing, and I anticipate a corresponding return normalcy with a decrease of a few percent per year in 2022 and 2023. I estimate that DRAM content per PC will increase from 5.5 GB in 2015 to 14 GB in 2023. That’s an increase of 2.5 times during this period.\n\nChart 3\nThus, although PC units will decrease, DRAM content will increase during the next two years. But factoring in the increase in DRAM content per PC, we see in Chart 4 a much different growth in DRAMs.\nChart 4\n#3 Spot ASPs are Different than Contract ASPs\nChart 5 shows DRAM data comparison for Spot ASPs vs Contract ASPs. The entire rationale for the TrendForce and Morgan Stanley reports is the drop in spot prices in 2021, and the resultant end of the current memory cycle.\nChart 5\nWhy they chose the drop in spot prices as the catalyst for the end of the cycle vs. the increase in contract prices as a catalyst for strong memory growth is irrational and illogical.\nImportantly, there's no correlation between PC sales (Chart 3) and prices (Chart 5). In Chart 3, PC sales were at their lowest period (2017 and 2018) while ASPs were at their highest. Thus, there's an inverse relationship between PC sales and ASPs, not a direct relationship that would add credibility to the MS forecast.\n#4 Spot ASPs Are a Function of Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD Factor)\nAlso note that Chart 5 shows that spot and contract prices tracked between October 2016 and the end of 2000. A bifurcation in spot vs contract prices then took place in which spot prices escalated and then collapsed, while contract prices continued a strong growth with no abatement.\nThis bifurcation is clearly the result of the “semiconductor shortage” in which prices on the spot market have risen as a result of a perceived shortage of memory that has been interpreted as impacting not only automobiles, but every application using chips.\nTrendForce attempted to explain the shortage is due to stockpiling by PC suppliers, and I agree, which I also attributed to the DRAM collapse in 2000.I discussed stockpiling and hoarding as a major factor in 2000 and 2020, in a June 24, 2021 Semiconductor Deep Dive Marketplace newsletter articlehere.\nHowever, TrendForce’s statement in its press release of downward pressure on price hikes runs counter to the data in Chart 5 that contract prices have continued to increase unabated.\n\n “Regarding the contract market, PC OEMs currently carry relatively high levels of DRAM inventory because they substantially stocked up on PC DRAM beforehand in anticipation of an upcoming shortage. Not only has PC OEMs’ high DRAM inventory put downward pressure on possible price hikes for PC DRAM, but the gradual lifting of COVID-related restrictions in Europe and the US will also likely lower the overall demand for notebook computers, thereby pulling down the overall demand for PC DRAM.”\n\nSpot prices are based on what a buyer is willing to pay for an item with an undercurrent of fear, uncertainty, and doubt. For example, in my June 19, 2021, SA article entitled \"Micron Technology: No Shortage, Strong Growth, Period,\" from a commenter:\n\n \"And, to lend credence to your microcontroller hypothesis, we recently were told that we would not be able to get a $3 micro for one of our existing products. I don't know if it was a direct result of the Renesas fire or not. But when we looked at the spot market we were quoted $81 for that part (that's not a typo). So now we have to re-design that board to use a different part.\"\n\nAbout 10 years ago, I was an \"expert witness\" in a solar cell litigation case, and the basis of the complaint was the fact that spot silicon prices increased from $35 per metric ton to more than $500 per metric ton in a period of a few weeks because of silicon shortages. Once silicon manufacturers started making more silicon, prices dropped.\nBoth these examples illustrate that spot prices have no direct bearing on real (contract) prices, and are often transitory.\nBack to the erroneous thesis that a DRAM cycle will end based on spot prices, I show supportive data in Chart 6 that suggests their data is wrong. This chart shows DRAM ASPs as reported directly from Micron, Samsung Electronics(OTC:SSNLF)and SK Hynix(OTC:HXSCL).\nComparing Chart 5 and Chart 6, it is clear that data directly from the DRAM suppliers matches the positive contract prices and not spot prices. Readers must remember also that spot prices represent only 10% of the DRAM prices paid by customers. Contract prices represent 90% of actual prices.\n\nChart 6\nChart 7 shows memory ASPs on a three-month moving average from the SIA (Semiconductor Industry Association). Again, comparing Chart 7 with Chart 5, it is clear that the contract prices are the more valid metric.\n\nChart 7\nInvestor Takeaway\nThe recent press release from TrendForce and a report a day later by Morgan Stanley is based in data that's irrational and illogical. Their analysis is based on:\n\nPC DRAM ASPs that represent just 15% of the total DRAM demand.\nA drop in PC sales, which have been in decline and only increased due to the pandemic, but low PC sales correlate with high ASPs (Charts 3 and 5).\nFailure to recognize that DRAM content per PC is increasing each year and that metric shows no abatement in growth.\nDRAM spot prices instead of contract prices, the latter of which correlate with reporting data supplied by DRAM manufacturer.\n\nStrong demand for memory chips will continue through 2023 as supply is held in check not by shortages but judicious capex spend. The strong demand for memory chips such as 5G, servers, and EVs present a continuing tailwind for Micron Technology.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":280,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":899016355,"gmtCreate":1628141903777,"gmtModify":1631889458340,"author":{"id":"3581681532128922","authorId":"3581681532128922","name":"tiototo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23c32a08fbf6fc88a1bda4f6b4f99ddb","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581681532128922","authorIdStr":"3581681532128922"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Huat!","listText":"Huat!","text":"Huat!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/899016355","repostId":"1183934326","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1183934326","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1628140836,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1183934326?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-08-05 13:20","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Robinhood's 126% post-IPO rally puts its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion stock payout","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1183934326","media":"Markets Insider","summary":"Robinhood co-founders Baiju Bhatt (left) and Vlad Tenev.\n\nRobinhood's post IPO rally of as much as 1","content":"<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ebea8ef44433d4792daec9801d33fc7\" tg-width=\"790\" tg-height=\"395\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Robinhood co-founders Baiju Bhatt (left) and Vlad Tenev.</span></p>\n<ul>\n <li><b>Robinhood's post IPO rally of as much as 126% put its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion payout.</b></li>\n <li><b>Co-founders Vlad Tenev and Baiju Bhatt stand to receive 13.8 million shares if Robinhood's stock price closes above $101.50 by 2025.</b></li>\n <li><b>Shares of Robinhood hit an intra-day high of $85 on Wednesday, just 19% below the award price.</b></li>\n</ul>\n<p>A wild post-IPO rally in shares of&nbsp;Robinhood&nbsp;this week put its co-founders within reach of a $1.4 billion stock payout, according to the&nbsp;company's S-1 filing.</p>\n<p>Vlad Tenev and Baiju Bhatt&nbsp;stand to each receive 13.8 million shares&nbsp;if Robinhood's stock price closes above $101.50 by 2025 for an extended period of time. Shares of Robinhood hit an intra-day high of $85 on Wednesday, just 19% below the price needed for Tenev and Bhatt to unlock their stock award.</p>\n<p>The $101.50 price hurdle is based on the average of the daily volume weighted average of Robinhood's stock price for each day over a consecutive 60-day trading period.</p>\n<p>Robinhood stumbled in its IPO debut last week,with shares falling as much as 12%,but the stock has since staged an impressive rebound and recovered all of its losses and then some. The online trading app staged a&nbsp;two-day rally of as much as 126%&nbsp;on Tuesday and Wednesday.</p>\n<p>The 13.8 million restrictive stock units were granted to both founders in 2013, but the award terms were revised in May to extend the deadline of the award to 2025. Under the original plan, Tenev and Bhatt would have only received 20% of the stock award if at the time of IPO shares were priced between $30.45 and $50.75, according to the filing.</p>\n<p>The company priced its IPO at $38 per share, meaning Tenev and Bhatt would have only received 20% of their stock award if the terms weren't revised.</p>\n<p>Tenev and Bhatt also stand to receive millions of more Robinhood shares if their stock price eventually trades up to $300 per share by the end of this decade. The co-founders were granted an additional RSU equity award, 22 million shares for Tenev and 13 million shares of Bhatt, if the stock price hit a number of price hurdles, starting at $120 and moving up in increments of $30 until topping out at $300.</p>\n<p>All in all, if successful, the equity awards for Tenev and Bhatt could be worth up to $10.8 billion and $8.1 billion, respectively, assuming both co-founders don't sell a single share of their accumulated equity awards after the last tranche is granted at the $300 per share level.</p>\n<p>\"The 2021 Market-Based RSUs are designed to incentivize the Co-Founders toward further growing our share price over and above the price hurdles applicable to the 2019 Market-Based RSUs,\" Robinhood said in the filing.</p>\n<p>In April, Robinhood reduced the annual salary of Tenev and Bhatt to $34,248, which is the 2019 median wage of US workers. Both were previously paid a base salary of $400,000.</p>\n<p>Tenev and Bhatt founded Robinhood in 2013. The company has&nbsp;seen its business explode&nbsp;as millions of Americans began investing in the stock market amid the COVID-19 pandemic and government stimulus checks. Epic rallies in&nbsp;dogecoin and meme-stocks like GameStop and AMC Entertainment&nbsp;have also boosted its business in recent months.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Robinhood's 126% post-IPO rally puts its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion stock payout</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nRobinhood's 126% post-IPO rally puts its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion stock payout\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-08-05 13:20 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/robinhood-stock-price-ipo-rally-founders-closer-1-billion-payout-2021-8><strong>Markets Insider</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Robinhood co-founders Baiju Bhatt (left) and Vlad Tenev.\n\nRobinhood's post IPO rally of as much as 126% put its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion payout.\nCo-founders Vlad Tenev and Baiju Bhatt ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/robinhood-stock-price-ipo-rally-founders-closer-1-billion-payout-2021-8\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"HOOD":"Robinhood"},"source_url":"https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/robinhood-stock-price-ipo-rally-founders-closer-1-billion-payout-2021-8","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1183934326","content_text":"Robinhood co-founders Baiju Bhatt (left) and Vlad Tenev.\n\nRobinhood's post IPO rally of as much as 126% put its founders within reach of a $1.4 billion payout.\nCo-founders Vlad Tenev and Baiju Bhatt stand to receive 13.8 million shares if Robinhood's stock price closes above $101.50 by 2025.\nShares of Robinhood hit an intra-day high of $85 on Wednesday, just 19% below the award price.\n\nA wild post-IPO rally in shares of Robinhood this week put its co-founders within reach of a $1.4 billion stock payout, according to the company's S-1 filing.\nVlad Tenev and Baiju Bhatt stand to each receive 13.8 million shares if Robinhood's stock price closes above $101.50 by 2025 for an extended period of time. Shares of Robinhood hit an intra-day high of $85 on Wednesday, just 19% below the price needed for Tenev and Bhatt to unlock their stock award.\nThe $101.50 price hurdle is based on the average of the daily volume weighted average of Robinhood's stock price for each day over a consecutive 60-day trading period.\nRobinhood stumbled in its IPO debut last week,with shares falling as much as 12%,but the stock has since staged an impressive rebound and recovered all of its losses and then some. The online trading app staged a two-day rally of as much as 126% on Tuesday and Wednesday.\nThe 13.8 million restrictive stock units were granted to both founders in 2013, but the award terms were revised in May to extend the deadline of the award to 2025. Under the original plan, Tenev and Bhatt would have only received 20% of the stock award if at the time of IPO shares were priced between $30.45 and $50.75, according to the filing.\nThe company priced its IPO at $38 per share, meaning Tenev and Bhatt would have only received 20% of their stock award if the terms weren't revised.\nTenev and Bhatt also stand to receive millions of more Robinhood shares if their stock price eventually trades up to $300 per share by the end of this decade. The co-founders were granted an additional RSU equity award, 22 million shares for Tenev and 13 million shares of Bhatt, if the stock price hit a number of price hurdles, starting at $120 and moving up in increments of $30 until topping out at $300.\nAll in all, if successful, the equity awards for Tenev and Bhatt could be worth up to $10.8 billion and $8.1 billion, respectively, assuming both co-founders don't sell a single share of their accumulated equity awards after the last tranche is granted at the $300 per share level.\n\"The 2021 Market-Based RSUs are designed to incentivize the Co-Founders toward further growing our share price over and above the price hurdles applicable to the 2019 Market-Based RSUs,\" Robinhood said in the filing.\nIn April, Robinhood reduced the annual salary of Tenev and Bhatt to $34,248, which is the 2019 median wage of US workers. Both were previously paid a base salary of $400,000.\nTenev and Bhatt founded Robinhood in 2013. The company has seen its business explode as millions of Americans began investing in the stock market amid the COVID-19 pandemic and government stimulus checks. Epic rallies in dogecoin and meme-stocks like GameStop and AMC Entertainment have also boosted its business in recent months.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":257,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":803757859,"gmtCreate":1627467312371,"gmtModify":1631889458348,"author":{"id":"3581681532128922","authorId":"3581681532128922","name":"tiototo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23c32a08fbf6fc88a1bda4f6b4f99ddb","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581681532128922","authorIdStr":"3581681532128922"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Semicon stocks should have some legs to run further","listText":"Semicon stocks should have some legs to run further","text":"Semicon stocks should have some legs to run further","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/803757859","repostId":"1100886165","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":761,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":803752423,"gmtCreate":1627467057262,"gmtModify":1631889458362,"author":{"id":"3581681532128922","authorId":"3581681532128922","name":"tiototo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23c32a08fbf6fc88a1bda4f6b4f99ddb","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581681532128922","authorIdStr":"3581681532128922"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Why would elon musk want to buy AVTI??","listText":"Why would elon musk want to buy AVTI??","text":"Why would elon musk want to buy AVTI??","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/803752423","repostId":"1181811581","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":418,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":175149178,"gmtCreate":1627016316994,"gmtModify":1631889458372,"author":{"id":"3581681532128922","authorId":"3581681532128922","name":"tiototo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/23c32a08fbf6fc88a1bda4f6b4f99ddb","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3581681532128922","authorIdStr":"3581681532128922"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Follow the grandmaster. 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More than 98% were canceled without being filled, she said.</p>\n<p>On the opposite side of the market, a fellow Deutsche Bank trader Bases coordinated with sold his 170 contracts worth $15,172,500 as the price rose, Garibotti told jurors on Wednesday.</p>\n<p>“that does show u how easy it is to manipulate it sometimes,” Bases wrote minutes after the trading in a chat message sent to the other Deutsche Bank trader, Cedric Chanu, according to Garibotti. Chanu and another Deutsche Bank Trader, James Vorley, were sentenced last month to a year in prison each for their convictions in 2020 on spoofing charges at a separate trial.</p>\n<p>“I f..k the mkt around a lot,” Bases said in another message.</p>\n<p>Bases and fellow Merrill Lynch trader John Pacilio face federal fraud charges for allegedly spoofing the futures market from 2008 to 2014.</p>\n<p>Another episode described by Garibotti involved trades by Bases and Pacilio on Aug. 9, 2010, when both were working at Merrill Lynch.</p>\n<p>That day, Bases placed an iceberg order to buy 10 contracts of platinum, with six being filled at placement, she said. Less than 10 seconds after Bases placed that buy order, Pacilio placed an order to sell 205 contracts for $15,856,750, which was almost 90% of what was visible on the exchange order book, Garibotti said. The price went down, and the rest of Bases’ order was filled, she said. Less than a second later, Pacilio’s sell order was canceled, she said.</p>\n<p>Garibotti said employees at Analysis Group put in about 3,000 hours studying data in this case over the course of several years, billing the government $1.2 million for its work.</p>\n<p>The defense attorneys have not yet begun cross-examining Garibotti.</p>\n<p>In opening arguments Tuesday, Bases’ defense attorney told the jury that once her client understood spoofing was illegal, he stopped doing it, and that nearly all the conduct the government identified was before the enactment of the Dodd-Frank Act, which specifically prohibited spoofing.</p>\n<p>The case is U.S. v. 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More than 98% were canceled without being filled, she said.\nOn the opposite side of the market, a fellow Deutsche Bank trader Bases coordinated with sold his 170 contracts worth $15,172,500 as the price rose, Garibotti told jurors on Wednesday.\n“that does show u how easy it is to manipulate it sometimes,” Bases wrote minutes after the trading in a chat message sent to the other Deutsche Bank trader, Cedric Chanu, according to Garibotti. Chanu and another Deutsche Bank Trader, James Vorley, were sentenced last month to a year in prison each for their convictions in 2020 on spoofing charges at a separate trial.\n“I f..k the mkt around a lot,” Bases said in another message.\nBases and fellow Merrill Lynch trader John Pacilio face federal fraud charges for allegedly spoofing the futures market from 2008 to 2014.\nAnother episode described by Garibotti involved trades by Bases and Pacilio on Aug. 9, 2010, when both were working at Merrill Lynch.\nThat day, Bases placed an iceberg order to buy 10 contracts of platinum, with six being filled at placement, she said. Less than 10 seconds after Bases placed that buy order, Pacilio placed an order to sell 205 contracts for $15,856,750, which was almost 90% of what was visible on the exchange order book, Garibotti said. The price went down, and the rest of Bases’ order was filled, she said. Less than a second later, Pacilio’s sell order was canceled, she said.\nGaribotti said employees at Analysis Group put in about 3,000 hours studying data in this case over the course of several years, billing the government $1.2 million for its work.\nThe defense attorneys have not yet begun cross-examining Garibotti.\nIn opening arguments Tuesday, Bases’ defense attorney told the jury that once her client understood spoofing was illegal, he stopped doing it, and that nearly all the conduct the government identified was before the enactment of the Dodd-Frank Act, which specifically prohibited spoofing.\nThe case is U.S. v. 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e-commerce, media and automotive companies:Alibaba Group Holding Ltd – ADR(NYSE:BABA),Walt Disney Co(NYSE:DIS),Ford Motor Company(NYSE:F) and Amazon.com, Inc.(NASDAQ:AMZN).\nPenn operates gaming and racing properties the U.S. The company has garnered popularity throughout 2020 and into 2021 thanks to its retail sports bettingofferingswith digital media company Barstool Sports.\nPenn offers live sports betting at its properties in Colorado, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Mississippi, Pennsylvania and West Virginia.\nHere's how the returns break down from June 2016 to present:\n\nAlibaba is up from $76.29 a share to $224.72 for a return of 194.56%\nDisney is up from $95.72 a share to $177.74 for a return of 85.68%\nFord is up from $12.52 a share to $15.38 for a return of 22.84%\nAmazon is up from $698.96 a share to $3406.75 for a return of 387.40%\nAnd finally, Penn is up from $13.95 a share to $75.36 for a return of 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