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  How Steve Cohen Traded The Bursting Of The Dot Com Bubble
  This week’s Story Time Thursday is about “Patience”, and I (Nick here …) will start with a brief ane
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  Crypto Mining Could Give Huge Boost to Seagate and Western Digital Stock
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The current environment demands a focused investment approach, not a scattershot one.</p>\n<p>Yes, this is hard, but as Steve said, “That’s how you do it”.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>How Steve Cohen Traded The Bursting Of The Dot Com Bubble</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nHow Steve Cohen Traded The Bursting Of The Dot Com Bubble\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-21 17:02 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/how-steve-cohen-traded-bursting-dot-com-bubble?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29><strong>zerohedge</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>This week’s Story Time Thursday is about “Patience”, and I (Nick here …) will start with a brief anecdote from my time at SAC Capital back in 2000:\nJust after the peak of the dot com bubble in March, ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/how-steve-cohen-traded-bursting-dot-com-bubble?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".DJI":"道琼斯",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","SPY":"标普500ETF"},"source_url":"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/how-steve-cohen-traded-bursting-dot-com-bubble?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1105691189","content_text":"This week’s Story Time Thursday is about “Patience”, and I (Nick here …) will start with a brief anecdote from my time at SAC Capital back in 2000:\nJust after the peak of the dot com bubble in March, it was not immediately clear which way the US equity market was headed.\nMany thought the momentum would return soon enough. Others were more cautious, but most bears had been wrong for years. It was therefore hard to take them seriously.\nGoing into a Fed meeting day in mid-2000, Steve had set up his portfolio very short S&P futures.\nBecause every trader in the room was allowed to see his pad, we all followed suit. Everyone was max-out short, confident in Steve’s market call even though it wasn’t exactly clear what he saw.\nStocks opened up that morning, and then headed higher still.\nThe room was dead quiet, as every trading desk will be when experiencing sharp, sudden losses.\nThen Steve did something I had never seen him do before: he left the desk and went downstairs to have lunch with his family.At the time, SAC shared space with GE Capital in a Stamford, CT office building. When I went down to the cafeteria to get lunch a little while later, I saw Steve chatting with his kids and wife while munching on some fish sticks. He didn’t really seem to have a care in the world.\nAt 2:00pm, with Steve back on the desk, we all waited for the Fed decision.It was another rate hike. But instead of selling off, the S&P just kept going up. The only sound in the room was Steve’s assistant calling out S&P levels, each one higher than the last, her voice growing more urgent with each number. Had Steve misread the tape?\nAfter about 15 minutes, though, the S&P leveled out and started to drop.\nFirst by just a little, but then it went into free fall. The whole firm’s P&L swung from dangerously in the red to deeply profitable.\nAt 4pm, with all his shorts covered, Steve stood up and addressed the room: “And that’s how you do it … I’m going home now”.We gave him a standing ovation.\nI’ve thought a lot about that day in the last 20 years, and not just because it so neatly encapsulates the experience of equity day trading in its late 1990s – early 2000s heyday.\nIt taught me that:\n#1) Conviction matters.\nWe used to have a debate on the desk at SAC: was Steve so good because he was already worth a billion dollars and could afford to take risk, or did his net worth come from his ability to only scale and stick with bets where he had the highest conviction? Days like the one I just described always made us realize it was the latter.\nThere is more to that point, though. Many years later, I met a data team that had done a deep diagnostic analysis of hundreds of hedge funds. They looked primarily at what separated top decile performing funds from the rest of the pack.\nThey found that much of the slippage in underperforming funds came from a myriad of small portfolio positions that collectively ate away at returns. Some were losers, yes, but many were winners that weren’t sized large enough to make a real difference in the portfolio. Top performing funds owned winners in size; lesser funds were involved as well, but only in a small way.\nNo prizes for guessing why that happened: conviction.Mediocre funds had enough of an investment process to unearth good ideas, but not enough to size them correctly. They weren’t willing to make a larger bet because they knew they would not be able to patiently sit out any volatility that might arise if it were 5 percent of the portfolio rather than 0.5 percent.\nTakeaway: conviction and sizing are what separated Steve, and every other great investor I’ve ever met, from the merely “very good”. It’s not enough to find ideas that work. The real magic is in making them count.\n#2: Use whatever mental hacks you need to foster patience.\nSteve’s was getting off the desk for an hour. Other highly successful investors I’ve met over the years literally turned off their screens or took a symbol off their monitors.\nThis is not to say one can just blindly buy an asset and hold it whatever comes. Productive patience means following many rules. A few of my personal favorites:\n\nDon’t buy new lows.\nDon’t short new highs.\nAlways scale in and out of positions.\nSet stop losses where you re-evaluate your point of view.\nAlways look for new ideas.\nAdmit when you’re wrong and move on.\n\nTakeaway: the story about Steve on Fed Day is not meant to celebrate blind patience, but rather to show how patience fits in the context of a broader, disciplined approach.If Steve had been wrong on that day, he would have still stuck to his process the next day and the day after that. No one has a 100 percent hit rate in this business.\nFinal thought: the ability to be patient is, in the end, always a function of conviction and environment. Since we have little control over environment, especially with capital markets, the only effective way to cultivate patience is to build and follow a process that increases conviction in the context of prevailing circumstances.\nIronically, low volatility markets such as what we have now demand more patience and conviction than when prices are choppier. Even a 1 percent position in a spicy name can meaningfully help portfolio returns when the VIX is at 40. But when the VIX is below 20 (today’s close was 18), it’s an entirely different game. The current environment demands a focused investment approach, not a scattershot one.\nYes, this is hard, but as Steve said, “That’s how you do it”.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":323,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":165189864,"gmtCreate":1624105844558,"gmtModify":1634010647502,"author":{"id":"3582272232021521","authorId":"3582272232021521","name":"Gaggoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d1e37505d342fd0d2ea94216065db33","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582272232021521","authorIdStr":"3582272232021521"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"coool","listText":"coool","text":"coool","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/165189864","repostId":"1161408410","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":470,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":166911535,"gmtCreate":1623987723327,"gmtModify":1634024550331,"author":{"id":"3582272232021521","authorId":"3582272232021521","name":"Gaggoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d1e37505d342fd0d2ea94216065db33","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3582272232021521","authorIdStr":"3582272232021521"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"cool bro","listText":"cool bro","text":"cool bro","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://laohu8.com/post/166911535","repostId":"1112448941","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1112448941","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1623984287,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1112448941?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-18 10:44","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Crypto Mining Could Give Huge Boost to Seagate and Western Digital Stock","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112448941","media":"Barrons","summary":"Disk-drive demand continues to be warped by the rapid adoption of Chia, a cryptocurrency that relies","content":"<p>Disk-drive demand continues to be warped by the rapid adoption of Chia, a cryptocurrency that relies on large capacity drives to “farm” new coins.</p>\n<p>, Chia uses a different model than other cryptocurrencies to create new coins. Most cryptocurrencies rely on a “proof of work” model to verify transactions: Miners solve complex mathematical problems that require lots of computational power to earn coins, which explains why traditional mining is so energy-intensive.</p>\n<p>Chia’s approach, by contrast, is tied to storage capacity committed to being used on the blockchain, rather than computational might. And that is warping demand for high-capacity drives.</p>\n<p>In a research note on Thursday, Loop Capital analyst&nbsp;Ananda Baruah&nbsp;asserts that both&nbsp;SeagateTechnology Holdings (ticker: STX) and&nbsp;Western Digital(WDC)—which together control most of the world’s disk-drive production—could see a sustained boost to both pricing and profits from the Chia-driven acceleration in demand for high-capacity drives.</p>\n<p>If that demand is sustained, he asserts, Seagate’s annualized earnings could reach $12 a share, well above the Street’s consensus forecasts of profits of $5.52 a share for the June 2021 fiscal year, $7.48 for fiscal 2022, and $7.71 for fiscal 2023. For Western Digital, he writes, profits could reach the $10-$12-per-share range, which compares to Street estimates of $3.83 for the June 2021 fiscal year, $8.87 for fiscal 2022, and $10.54 for fiscal 2023.</p>\n<p>While the impact on drive pricing from Chia farming has largely been at the retail level and through distributors, Baruah sees the trend overflowing to contract pricing if the Chia trend is sustained, with higher prices possible for drives sold to both cloud-computing companies and major data-storage systems companies like Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE),Dell Technologies‘ (DELL) EMC unit, and&nbsp;NetApp(NTAP).</p>\n<p>He contends that both Seagate and Western Digital have begun holding conversations on shifting average selling prices higher. And he adds that “if all of this holds, gross margin expansion could have a long way to go.”</p>\n<p>With distributor inventories depleted, Baruah adds, the hard-drive suppliers are “in prime position” heading into the calendar second half to see elevated pricing. He notes that the last time there was an event-driven price reset in the drive market was 10 years ago, when severe flooding in Thailand knocked out a substantial portion of drive manufacturing capacity. This time, he says, there is less excess capacity in the system, with limited suppliers of both recording heads and magnetic media constraining the ability to satisfy demand.</p>\n<p>Baruah maintains his Buy ratings on both Seagate and Western Digital. He has price targets of $100 on Seagate and $90 on Western. Both stocks are lower in recent trading, with Seagate off 4.2%, at $88.82, and Western Digital down 3.4%, at $70.77. The&nbsp;S&amp;P 500&nbsp;index is down 0.04%.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Crypto Mining Could Give Huge Boost to Seagate and Western Digital Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCrypto Mining Could Give Huge Boost to Seagate and Western Digital Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-18 10:44 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/crypto-mining-could-give-huge-boost-to-seagate-and-western-digital-stock-51623944488?mod=hp_DAY_7><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Disk-drive demand continues to be warped by the rapid adoption of Chia, a cryptocurrency that relies on large capacity drives to “farm” new coins.\n, Chia uses a different model than other ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/crypto-mining-could-give-huge-boost-to-seagate-and-western-digital-stock-51623944488?mod=hp_DAY_7\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"WDC":"西部数据","STX":"希捷科技"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/crypto-mining-could-give-huge-boost-to-seagate-and-western-digital-stock-51623944488?mod=hp_DAY_7","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112448941","content_text":"Disk-drive demand continues to be warped by the rapid adoption of Chia, a cryptocurrency that relies on large capacity drives to “farm” new coins.\n, Chia uses a different model than other cryptocurrencies to create new coins. Most cryptocurrencies rely on a “proof of work” model to verify transactions: Miners solve complex mathematical problems that require lots of computational power to earn coins, which explains why traditional mining is so energy-intensive.\nChia’s approach, by contrast, is tied to storage capacity committed to being used on the blockchain, rather than computational might. And that is warping demand for high-capacity drives.\nIn a research note on Thursday, Loop Capital analyst Ananda Baruah asserts that both SeagateTechnology Holdings (ticker: STX) and Western Digital(WDC)—which together control most of the world’s disk-drive production—could see a sustained boost to both pricing and profits from the Chia-driven acceleration in demand for high-capacity drives.\nIf that demand is sustained, he asserts, Seagate’s annualized earnings could reach $12 a share, well above the Street’s consensus forecasts of profits of $5.52 a share for the June 2021 fiscal year, $7.48 for fiscal 2022, and $7.71 for fiscal 2023. For Western Digital, he writes, profits could reach the $10-$12-per-share range, which compares to Street estimates of $3.83 for the June 2021 fiscal year, $8.87 for fiscal 2022, and $10.54 for fiscal 2023.\nWhile the impact on drive pricing from Chia farming has largely been at the retail level and through distributors, Baruah sees the trend overflowing to contract pricing if the Chia trend is sustained, with higher prices possible for drives sold to both cloud-computing companies and major data-storage systems companies like Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE),Dell Technologies‘ (DELL) EMC unit, and NetApp(NTAP).\nHe contends that both Seagate and Western Digital have begun holding conversations on shifting average selling prices higher. And he adds that “if all of this holds, gross margin expansion could have a long way to go.”\nWith distributor inventories depleted, Baruah adds, the hard-drive suppliers are “in prime position” heading into the calendar second half to see elevated pricing. He notes that the last time there was an event-driven price reset in the drive market was 10 years ago, when severe flooding in Thailand knocked out a substantial portion of drive manufacturing capacity. This time, he says, there is less excess capacity in the system, with limited suppliers of both recording heads and magnetic media constraining the ability to satisfy demand.\nBaruah maintains his Buy ratings on both Seagate and Western Digital. He has price targets of $100 on Seagate and $90 on Western. Both stocks are lower in recent trading, with Seagate off 4.2%, at $88.82, and Western Digital down 3.4%, at $70.77. 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Most cryptocurrencies rely on a “proof of work” model to verify transactions: Miners solve complex mathematical problems that require lots of computational power to earn coins, which explains why traditional mining is so energy-intensive.</p>\n<p>Chia’s approach, by contrast, is tied to storage capacity committed to being used on the blockchain, rather than computational might. And that is warping demand for high-capacity drives.</p>\n<p>In a research note on Thursday, Loop Capital analyst&nbsp;Ananda Baruah&nbsp;asserts that both&nbsp;SeagateTechnology Holdings (ticker: STX) and&nbsp;Western Digital(WDC)—which together control most of the world’s disk-drive production—could see a sustained boost to both pricing and profits from the Chia-driven acceleration in demand for high-capacity drives.</p>\n<p>If that demand is sustained, he asserts, Seagate’s annualized earnings could reach $12 a share, well above the Street’s consensus forecasts of profits of $5.52 a share for the June 2021 fiscal year, $7.48 for fiscal 2022, and $7.71 for fiscal 2023. For Western Digital, he writes, profits could reach the $10-$12-per-share range, which compares to Street estimates of $3.83 for the June 2021 fiscal year, $8.87 for fiscal 2022, and $10.54 for fiscal 2023.</p>\n<p>While the impact on drive pricing from Chia farming has largely been at the retail level and through distributors, Baruah sees the trend overflowing to contract pricing if the Chia trend is sustained, with higher prices possible for drives sold to both cloud-computing companies and major data-storage systems companies like Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE),Dell Technologies‘ (DELL) EMC unit, and&nbsp;NetApp(NTAP).</p>\n<p>He contends that both Seagate and Western Digital have begun holding conversations on shifting average selling prices higher. And he adds that “if all of this holds, gross margin expansion could have a long way to go.”</p>\n<p>With distributor inventories depleted, Baruah adds, the hard-drive suppliers are “in prime position” heading into the calendar second half to see elevated pricing. He notes that the last time there was an event-driven price reset in the drive market was 10 years ago, when severe flooding in Thailand knocked out a substantial portion of drive manufacturing capacity. This time, he says, there is less excess capacity in the system, with limited suppliers of both recording heads and magnetic media constraining the ability to satisfy demand.</p>\n<p>Baruah maintains his Buy ratings on both Seagate and Western Digital. He has price targets of $100 on Seagate and $90 on Western. Both stocks are lower in recent trading, with Seagate off 4.2%, at $88.82, and Western Digital down 3.4%, at $70.77. 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Most cryptocurrencies rely on a “proof of work” model to verify transactions: Miners solve complex mathematical problems that require lots of computational power to earn coins, which explains why traditional mining is so energy-intensive.\nChia’s approach, by contrast, is tied to storage capacity committed to being used on the blockchain, rather than computational might. And that is warping demand for high-capacity drives.\nIn a research note on Thursday, Loop Capital analyst Ananda Baruah asserts that both SeagateTechnology Holdings (ticker: STX) and Western Digital(WDC)—which together control most of the world’s disk-drive production—could see a sustained boost to both pricing and profits from the Chia-driven acceleration in demand for high-capacity drives.\nIf that demand is sustained, he asserts, Seagate’s annualized earnings could reach $12 a share, well above the Street’s consensus forecasts of profits of $5.52 a share for the June 2021 fiscal year, $7.48 for fiscal 2022, and $7.71 for fiscal 2023. For Western Digital, he writes, profits could reach the $10-$12-per-share range, which compares to Street estimates of $3.83 for the June 2021 fiscal year, $8.87 for fiscal 2022, and $10.54 for fiscal 2023.\nWhile the impact on drive pricing from Chia farming has largely been at the retail level and through distributors, Baruah sees the trend overflowing to contract pricing if the Chia trend is sustained, with higher prices possible for drives sold to both cloud-computing companies and major data-storage systems companies like Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE),Dell Technologies‘ (DELL) EMC unit, and NetApp(NTAP).\nHe contends that both Seagate and Western Digital have begun holding conversations on shifting average selling prices higher. And he adds that “if all of this holds, gross margin expansion could have a long way to go.”\nWith distributor inventories depleted, Baruah adds, the hard-drive suppliers are “in prime position” heading into the calendar second half to see elevated pricing. He notes that the last time there was an event-driven price reset in the drive market was 10 years ago, when severe flooding in Thailand knocked out a substantial portion of drive manufacturing capacity. This time, he says, there is less excess capacity in the system, with limited suppliers of both recording heads and magnetic media constraining the ability to satisfy demand.\nBaruah maintains his Buy ratings on both Seagate and Western Digital. He has price targets of $100 on Seagate and $90 on Western. Both stocks are lower in recent trading, with Seagate off 4.2%, at $88.82, and Western Digital down 3.4%, at $70.77. 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